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By the way – all those R’s we chop off or out of words? They don’t go to waste; we just stick 'em onto words ending in “a”. Thus, “Asia Minor” comes out sounding like “AY-sher MY-nah”. 
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You are wicked correct.
By the way, your location came up as a subject at the recent dopefest. Just a passing mention, but just wanted to let you know that we missed yah.
[QUOTE=lieu]
In all fairness, shouldn’t he dress his child as a hunchback, get him intoxicated and have him urinate on deciduous shrubbery?
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Fairness to whom? My point is that the man who is the object of the OP’s rage has had to live his life with a rather obvious physical disfigurement, and that we as a society generally treat such people with cruelty and scorn. It is not difficult to imagine how that could have shaped his life.
Most rhododendrons are evergreens, not deciduous.
Why do you hate Victor Hugo?
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
Most rhododendrons are evergreens, not deciduous.
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Most assholes are brown.
[QUOTE=bigbabysweets2000]
Most assholes are brown.
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Brilliant! Expert opinions are always welcome. In your experience, are there varying shades, or are they mainly monochromatic? (And thanks for doing the research. Most folks would not be willing to stick their noses up so many butts. Bravo!)
You know, in all seriousness, I used to know a little boy who suffered from severe curvature of the spine, which produced a very dramatic hunchback. He was also autistic, Deaf and partially blind. He had some additional health problems of which I’m unclear on the details but it was a miracle that he had lived as long as he had. He was a really sweet kid and I would break the fingers of anyone who thought to say something less than kind about him.
However…
It was not his hunchbackiness that made him a sweet kid, nor any of his other disabilities. These certainly affected who he was and how he interacted with the world, but he was not the sum total of his various and sundry health problems. He was a human being and his humanity was what made him worthwhile and loved, not pity or sympathy because he had a hump.
Some asshole drunk who is stumbling around, pissing on people’s bushes is a perfectly acceptable target of scorn. The fact that he suffered from kyphosis in no way protects him from this scorn. Disabled people are capable of being nice people, Contrapuntal, regardless of how difficult their lives might be. Understanding is a fine thing, but trying to make the world an easier place for those with different abilities and bending over backwards for assholes who happen to have disabilities are two different things.
I have had friends who are Deaf, blind, wheelchair bound and diagnosed with genetic disorders that will keep them from attaining adulthood. I have also known complete assholes who are Deaf, blind, wheelchair bound and diagnosed with genetic disorders that will keep them from attaining adulthood. Is it nice to pick on those assholes for their disabilities? No. However, picking on them and using those disabilities as a description on a message board are not the same thing.
[QUOTE=CaerieD]
Some asshole drunk who is stumbling around, pissing on people’s bushes is a perfectly acceptable target of scorn. The fact that he suffered from kyphosis in no way protects him from this scorn.
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Of course not. His behavior was cause for scorn perhaps; his deformity, not at all.
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
Fairness to whom? My point is that the man who is the object of the OP’s rage has had to live his life with a rather obvious physical disfigurement, and that we as a society generally treat such people with cruelty and scorn. It is not difficult to imagine how that could have shaped his life.
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I have a bald head and I’m often the subject of cruel taunting because of it.
So you won’t mind if I get drunk and piss on YOUR shrubbery? In my drunken state I might just get belligerent and torch you car. Remember, you can’t be angry with me until you shave your kids’ heads and send them to school.
I wonder if you’d defend my actions if the name of this thread was Fuck You, you bald-headed, drunk, shrub-pissing motherfucker
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
Fairness to whom? My point is that the man who is the object of the OP’s rage has had to live his life with a rather obvious physical disfigurement, and that we as a society generally treat such people with cruelty and scorn. It is not difficult to imagine how that could have shaped his life.
Most rhododendrons are evergreens, not deciduous.
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Fairness to the truth, not any individual or side in the discussion. I think your use of the word “imagine” sums things up nicely. It’s hard to see where in Winston’s description of events he treated the man any differently because of a physical disfigurement. That he did so would have to be “imagined.” Because “we as a society generally” do isn’t a fair accusation to level against Winston’s stated ire. Contrapuntal, you’re a good guy and 99% of the time I’m on your side but here I’m just not seeing that any real slight occured.
As to the rhodos, they can be either and due to his northern clime I took a guess. Yours may have been better.
[QUOTE=BubbaDog]
I have a bald head and I’m often the subject of cruel taunting because of it.
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Often? Cruel? Bullshit. I’m bald. I can’t remember ever being cruelly taunted because of it. You need to hang out with more people of quality. I would suggest the OP, but he is a bit, uh, unsympathetic to folks like you.
Torch a car? Where the fuck did that come from? You might want to put the prune-o down there, bubba. You’re starting to babble.
Really. Stop drinking. Now.
Your actions? Are *you *the one that pissed in the bushes? Man, this thread just gets weirder and weirder.
[QUOTE=lieu]
That he did so would have to be “imagined.” Because “we as a society generally” do isn’t a fair accusation to level against Winston’s stated ire. Contrapuntal, you’re a good guy and 99% of the time I’m on your side but here I’m just not seeing that any real slight occured.
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I just think that he’s a jerk for de-humanizing the poor guy. I live in a neighborhood where people pissing on the bushes would be unremarkable. Half the time the cops don’t respond to reports of gunfire.
Sure, he’s ranting on a message board, but I’m responding on one, right? He called the guy a hunchback here, not IRL. I’m responding here. Is it really that unusual for posters to take issue with each other based on exchanges that are totally on a message board? If I were to start a thread titled “Faggots are abominations and should be shot,” would I be safe from ridicule because I didn’t say it about anyone in particular?
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
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Sure, he’s ranting on a message board, but I’m responding on one, right? He called the guy a hunchback here, not IRL. I’m responding here. Is it really that unusual for posters to take issue with each other based on exchanges that are totally on a message board? If I were to start a thread titled “Faggots are abominations and should be shot,” would I be safe from ridicule because I didn’t say it about anyone in particular?
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But he never said all hunchbacks should be arrested. He just wanted this one drunken, pissing hunchback to go away. I am sure he would have felt the same way about a 6’2" blond from central casting if he drunk and pissing on his bushes.
Jim
You deserved to have your lawn pissed upon by the hunch-back, Winston. It’s what you get for crying Bigfoot that one time.
Everything happens for a reason.
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
Congratulations. You discovered a keystroke error. Inamorata.
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Oh yeah? Who’s justifyin’ now, eh?
And a great deal of what goes on at the end of my driveway does not (thankfully) involve pestilential, clap-ridden hunch-backs micturating on my fucking Rhodys, man.
I don’t know what fucking planet you live on, Contrapuntal, but here on Planet Sanity we don’t dress our fucking children up as filthy, disease-ridden drunken hunch-backs to teach them humility, or compassion, or whatever. And regarding your insistance that I’m a monster for my sentiments: I care not. If bitching about a verminous, herpes-ridden hunch-back pissing on my precious ornmental plantings makes me a monster, then so be it.
You, sir, are obviously without sin, since you’re casting stones like a motherfuck.
Dumbass.
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
I live in a neighborhood where people pissing on the bushes would be unremarkable. Half the time the cops don’t respond to reports of gunfire.
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They’re shooting the bushes? Now that really fucking sucks.
For two people coming from norms so disparate as yourselves, it’d probably be strange were you not to differ in your responses. Neither’s right nor wrong, maybe y’all are just understandably jaded to a greater or lesser degree.
[QUOTE=bigbabysweets2000]
By the way, your location came up as a subject at the recent dopefest. Just a passing mention, but just wanted to let you know that we missed yah.
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:smack:
I hardly ever dip into MPSIMS – must have missed the planning thread.
[QUOTE=Winston Smith]
You, sir, are obviously without sin, since you’re casting stones like a motherfuck.
Dumbass.
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Well said.
Sapo.
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
Often? Cruel? Bullshit. I’m bald. I can’t remember ever being cruelly taunted because of it. You need to hang out with more people of quality. I would suggest the OP, but he is a bit, uh, unsympathetic to folks like you.
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I just think that he’s a jerk for de-humanizing the poor guy. I live in a neighborhood where people pissing on the bushes would be unremarkable. Half the time the cops don’t respond to reports of gunfire.
Sure, he’s ranting on a message board, but I’m responding on one, right? He called the guy a hunchback here, not IRL. I’m responding here. Is it really that unusual for posters to take issue with each other based on exchanges that are totally on a message board? If I were to start a thread titled “Faggots are abominations and should be shot,” would I be safe from ridicule because I didn’t say it about anyone in particular?
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So, now you’re saying I hate bald guys, too? :rolleyes:
And yes, I am dehumanizing the guy, not because he’s a hunch-back, but because he’s a fucking degenerate drunk shitsack shrub-pisser, who just so happens to be a hunch-back.
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
Often? Cruel? Bullshit. I’m bald. I can’t remember ever being cruelly taunted because of it.
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Now you’re a hypocrite. Arguing with me, a bald man, when you yourself are bald. Well I for one will no longer argue with my bald brother Contrapnutal. I will pick up all of my nits and put them away.
[QUOTE=BubbaDog]
Now you’re a hypocrite. Arguing with me, a bald man, when you yourself are bald. Well I for one will no longer argue with my bald brother Contrapnutal. I will pick up all of my nits and put them away.
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You can’t get nits if you’re bald. Well, except for pubic nits, and if that’s the baldness you’re talking abut, I don’t want to know.
[QUOTE=Hamadryad]
You can’t get nits if you’re bald. Well, except for pubic nits, and if that’s the baldness you’re talking abut, I don’t want to know.
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Why not, will you get all crabby about it?