Yeah, where was she headed with that note? Was she going to try and send it on to Rob? How would she find the right Raven? And did anybody get the full text of it?
I assumed she was heading for Gendry to get his help figuring out what to do with it.
You can find screencaps of it via Google if you’re looking for the exact words, but it’s nothing really important on first glance - it’s a scout report on where the message sender is at the moment, how many blokes are in Robb’s army and where they’re headed, and finally where the message sender is going to move his corps along with where Tywin’s army can meet up with them (place called Silverhill).
So why did Arya take it ? No idea. She was running to the armory though, so maybe she wanted Gendry’s advice about it ? Or escape with him to try to find Robb’s camp ?
You could hear a struggle while Maester Luwin was trying to send off that raven, and Theon told Bran that he scaled the walls without anyone seeing him. I think they did a good job of pointing out that awesome beard guy was taking almost every fighting man they had in reserve in the previous episode. BTW, what happened with those guys anyways? they didn’t even mention the 200 he had, just that they capture him coming back.
I have to agree with this. Anyone capable of being a player in the Game of Thrones should have seen the assassin’s knife as belonging to anyone important as a really obvious set-up. Cat is in a world of hurt as I said, but even then she should have seen that.
I kinda like that they skipped the battle, because it fits in with Bran’s reaction to Theon saying that he took over Winterfell.
Brienne isn’t a dick, AND doesn’t have one.
Well, fair’s fair, Tyrion *could *have planted the knife on purpose because everybody knows he’s not stupid enough to give an assassin his own knife. Or someone could have planted the knife to make smart people believe Tyrion planted the knife because everybody knows etc… you know, Sicilian shit 
But that’s sort of the point, isn’t it ? There’s clearly a puzzle there, which Ned was trying to put together as best he could, and more importantly (to him at least) within the bounds of what passes for law and due process in Westeros. But Cat just throws the pieces across the room - or works them with a sledgehammer, depending on the imagery you want to go with.
We can talk about events and stuff from past episodes, right?
Well, I never understood Renly’s actions. Stannis should be king by law, right? Renly’s only argument is that “I’d make a better king”. Well, first of all, that remains to be seen (and now it never will). And secondly, Stannis would never just let this happen; Renly would have to kill him. Didn’t Renly realize this? Was his plan to kill his older brother the whole time?
That actually kinda justifies the assassination. They both knew (or should have known) that one of them would have to die. It was self defense on the part of Stannis.
I haven’t read the books, but I get the feeling that Stannis is one of those characters that I’m supposed to dislike. He got suckered in by Melisandre and he’s a little too inflexible on the subject of the North, but I don’t see how he’d make such a bad king.
Quick question about the latest episode: why did the mob in King’s Landing tear the priest apart? Just because they could? Did he represent an unpopular religion or something?
Wait, what are the rules of succession in Westeros and why would Stannis be entitled to the crown instead of Joffrey? In the UK in the real world, the sibling of the sovereign is lower in the line of succession than the children of the sovereign. Or is Stannis’s claim valid only because Joffrey is not the legitimate child of the previous king?
Robert’s only argument was “I’d make a better king” when him and Ned rebelled. Who the rightful king is and was always solved in war, not by rules lawyering. Renly had a huge army compared to Stannis, that Stannis would attempt to attack him probably didn’t even cross his mind until he showed up there. Renly figured he would simply march his huge army, take kingslanding and become king by right of conquest. Which would have worked quite well really if it wasn’t for Melisandre.
I took that to represent how unpredictable an angry mob could be, and how dark the mood in King’s Landing has become since Joffrey took over. They didn’t need a reason; the priest was just a handy authority figure.
Actually…you make a good point. Does Stannis deserve the crown because his brother took it from the Targaryens? I may be thinking too much in terms of real life succession laws.
Yeah I guess I don’t have an argument. I think I’m right about Stannis and Renly being destined to kill one of eachother, though.
And do the Targaryens deserve the crown because their ancestors had dragons?
Given that he is all about “honor”, if he finds out that his king and best friend has been cuckholded, wouldn’t he be honor-bound to tell the king (or do whatever his honor calls for him to)?
Stannis’s entire claim is based on the fact that Cersei’s children are not Robert’s and that all those children that Robert did actually father emwere bastards.
Sure, I guess, but why does telling him imply becoming the Hand and moving to King’s Landing ? Not that it really matters, since when he made the decision to go to King’s Landing he didn’t know thing one about that, all he knew was that Jon Arryn had just died. There wasn’t even talk of murder back then - that only came on the table after he’d moved to the capital IIRC.
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I haven’t read the books, but I get the feeling that Stannis is one of those characters that I’m supposed to dislike. He got suckered in by Melisandre and he’s a little too inflexible on the subject of the North, but I don’t see how he’d make such a bad king.
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To quote The Wire, the boy’s got no flex to him. And not just about the North. Ask Ser Davos, maybe he’ll show you his severed knuckles.
So is the fact that Cersei’s children are not Robert’s well-known or just something that Robert knew? I thought I heard one of the hecklers saying something about Joffrey’s parentage. And does Gendry have some legitimate claim to the throne?
It became well known when Stannis sent a message to every single lord in the realm telling them in the first episode of season 2. Either way there are no DNA tests in westeros so if the Lannisters win Joffrey will be Roberts true born son and Stannis a pretender to the crown willing to say anything.
Even Joffrey had heard some rumors, and asked his mom about them in the throne room a few episodes back. Clearly word has gotten around.
Renly’s claim to the throne was based on:
- All of Cersei’s kids are the results of incest and thus not entitled to rule
- I have a bigger army than anyone else
- I’m a brother of the late king
- Stannis would be a worse king than me
Not necessarily in that order.