The mythology of zombies comes from Haitian witch doctor-types who would use drugs to keep people in a complacent state. No magic needed. Also, wasn’t the baby seen only from her POV? Convenient that it melted away. To me, that lady was the most ambiguous “magic user” in the series.
This is what I came to say. Jorah saw it, I’m pretty sure.
It wasn’t just malformed; it was half dragon, with dragon scales sloughing off as the body crumbled. It’s a reasonable conclusion that Dany can’t have human children, and she’s said as much. She’s the Mother of Dragons, not babies.
We really don’t know. It wasn’t explained. I doubt that anybody in Westeros would have called her condition “dragon scales.”
Maybe we’ll learn more–I did like the little girl. Her mother is supremely weird but has probably ignored her most of her life. So she’s made friends with some of the “retainers.” And her father did care for her–especially before he got caught up in the Game…
Here’s my issue with people saying “It’s sooo obvious” regarding Theon’s captors…how often and how prominient was the Bolton banner in the series BEFORE this season. It just seems like book knowledge edging into the show threads and treated like “A-duh.”
It’s still 4 people (one whose a spy and the other who is a small girl) attacking a castle. And I don’t think there are a lot of other openings in the Wall. Maybe they are going to drop some climbing ropes, yell “on belay!” and have the entire Wildling army scramble up the wall or something?
But why does before this season matter? Practically every single time there has been a Theon scene this season it has been followed by a Bolton scene that has the banner clearly displayed. Theon tied to a cross being flayed, cut to a man who blatantly displays a flag with a flayed man tied to a cross. That’s pretty damn obvious if you ask me.
Also, I’m 100% behind the no book mentions or spoilers rule. But it’s really unfair that the more observant among us (and I do NOT include myself in that number) are being accused of sneaking in book spoilers or whatever just because they pick up on the many many subtle hints in this incredibly well-made, complex show. I mean, I miss them all too, and seeing how obvious some are makes me feel a little dumb. But, really, isn’t that what these threads are for? Finding out things we missed on our own? It seems a little mean to basically accuse other people of cheating because they saw something you didn’t.
yeah, that made me lolsob. I can’t believe how sorry I feel for Theon. If you’d asked me last season, I would have said watching him be tortured would be a laff riot.
I don’t quite get the specific machinations alluded to at the end, although I think that last sequence there was amazingly-well done! What specifically were Varys and Littlefinger alluding to? Who was the girl that Joffrey had killed with the crossbow? I take it that either Varys or Littlefinger had manipulated Joffrey into doing it and it countered a “move” that the other was trying to make? There’s so many plots and plans that it’s hard to keep track of it all. :eek:
Ghost Tracker, the woman Joffrey killed was Roz, who worked for Littlefinger (managing his whores) and who agreed to spy on Littlefinger for Varys. Although I don’t remember if she agreed or if she was coerced in some way.
The character was Ros, who was pretty much created solely for the TV series. She appeared as a prostitute in Winterfell entertaining Tyrion in the pilot episode and apparently had Theon Greyjoy as a regular client. Later she was shown boarding a haywain south.
Later she appeared as an apprentice high-class whore in Littlefinger’s establishment. She witnessed the murder of a suckling babe and her mother, a fellow prostitute, and when she expressed emotional damage from that incident (and thus failed to please a client when she burst into tears), Littlefinger sat her down and told her that he had invested in her* and if she failed to bring in a profit, he had sadistic clients whom he would sell her to.
At some point, Tyrion, under advice from Bronn, decides that maybe Joffrey just needs to get laid, so he has Littlefinger send Ros and Daisy over to Joffrey to have sex with him. Instead, Joffrey holds Ros at crossbow-point and forces her to beat Daisy to a pulp with his own weapons. He has Daisy deposited at Tyrion’s quarters.
Later still, when Cersei wants to hold something over Tyrion to make sure he doesn’t get Joffrey killed in battle, she mistakenly gets hold of Ros and has her beaten and taken into her custody as a hostage.
In Season 3, Ros has been promoted to something like Littlefinger’s assistant and Varys has offered her security if she spies on Littlefinger on his behalf. Ros apparently fed Varys some information about Littlefinger’s scheming with Sansa, and in this episode, Littlefinger reveals that he found out about it and carried out his thread to hand Ros over to his sadistic client, who turns out to be Joffrey.
*Frankly, I don’t know what Littlefinger is talking about when he stresses his investment. She showed up and started working for him. He didn’t have to “invest” to acquire her.
I don’t think anyone has manipulated Joffrey. It’s implied that Joffrey had some time ago let Littlefinger know that he would like to do something like this and that Littlefinger took the opportunity presented by Ros’s betrayal to hand her over to Joffrey for his pleasure.
I have to say, that five-second scene with Joffrey gloating over Ros’s body really sickens me. It almost makes me lose the cloud of fiction and makes me feel like I’m really watching a psychopath with the first of his many victims. I really feel like I’ve lost someone I like to an unspeakable fate. Really, this makes me loathe Joffrey more than anything else.