And as I said, I’m not trying to argue. You are obviously more familiar with the technicalities of Salic succession and/or male-preference primogeniture, but I’m not looking at it from a historical true-to-life perspective, I’m just looking at what we’ve been shown. Westeros is not medieval England, and we don’t have Martin’s writ on this. The rules of succession in the world of Westeros may or may not line up with the traditions of our history.
And to bring this discursion full circle, I doubt anyone would argue Daenerys is not a threat to the Iron Throne at this point, and the rules of succession are entirely irrelevant to that threat.
Is this still the “don’t mention the books at all” thread, or has that been changed? If that rule is still in effect, there are a couple people in this thread that need to be reminded of it.
I’m not sure Frey would kill lord dipshit. He lived up to his bargain with Frey, he’s not a Stark, and he’s his son in law. Plus it gives Frey’s grandson (or great grandson) lordship of riverrun. Yeah, in fact, it seems like it’d play right into Frey’s hands to allow him to live and hope he’s thankful enough for being spared and being delivered a hot wife to stay loyal.
Incidentally, I always get irked by the morals of the stories involving this sort of thing, where beauty is the only factor in whether an arranged marriage is a reward or a punishment.
Well, as long as the Lannisters and Tyrells are on friendly/mutually-beneficial cooperation terms, being married to Cersei seems to be the perfect marriage for Loras. Sure, the marriage to Sansa would have benefited his *family *more, but on the relationship level, it wouldn’t have worked out well for either of them. With Cersei, they’ll both have no expectations from each other, and get to do whatever/*whomever *they want. (Too bad Jaime’s not bi, though - that might have worked really well for them!)
Well, maybe Lancel can get him started, then he can close his eyes and think of Highgarden
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I’m not sure Frey would kill lord dipshit. He lived up to his bargain with Frey, he’s not a Stark, and he’s his son in law. Plus it gives Frey’s grandson (or great grandson) lordship of riverrun. Yeah, in fact, it seems like it’d play right into Frey’s hands to allow him to live and hope he’s thankful enough for being spared and being delivered a hot wife to stay loyal.
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Yeah, that’s what I figured as well. In the end, it’s all up to Edmure whether he lives or dies. If he can’t get over the massacre and tries to make a fuss, he’ll probably get butchered ; but if he can put that little thing behind him, he can live a long and healthy life with the slimiest father-in-law this side of the Wall.
Has Lancel been on the show at all this season?
Not terribly related to the show, but- I watched the show the other night and then flipped channels and Love Actually was playing on another HBO. I’ve never seen that movie, so I did a kind of doubletake when “Jojen Reed: The Early Years” was on screen. (That actor is an even more childlike 20-something than the actor who plays Joffrey.)
Nope. Last we saw of him he was writhing on the ground after Cersei jabbed his arrow wound during the Battle of Blackwater Bay in episode 9 of season 2.
