The succession as I believe it–
Edmure
Catelyn
Robb
Bran
Rickon
Sansa
Arya
Lysa
Robert
Brynden
Beautiful.
(And that’s the only thing this show is missing – Roy Batty.)
Jon said Ygritte’s name as she was preparing to shoot the horse man. Did she miss on purpose?
Nice Simpsons reference!
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Riverrun is House Tully, not Stark or Arryn (yes, I know Catelyn and Lysa are Tullys, but they’re them there females, y’see, and their issue is not Tully at all). Pending survival of the Red Wedding, Edmure is Lord, or the Blackfish if Edmure is dead. If both are dead and there are no surviving male heirs, it would seem to me succession would pass to Lysa, being a living (albeit insane) Tully.
So where was Admiral Ackbar when Rob Stark needed him?!?
It hasn’t been definitively stated, but I believe that in most of Westeros is by male-preference primogeniture, in which case the succession would be as I have described it.
What you’re describing is Salic succession, and we have no reason to believe that that’s how it works in Westeros.
He distracted her aim is what I think.
Not trying to be argumentative, but I don’t think we have reason to believe either case. I was basing my guess partly on Cersei’s ramblings regarding females constantly being ignored, and the general sense that family name seems to be of major importance in Westeros.
I also like how he subtly struck his sword against a rock to warn the horses (and by extension, the old man.)
Technically no, but then again there is a guy named “The Kingslayer” serving in the King’s Guard, so with the right connections it might be workable. People would still think you were a dick, but you could probably get some sort of special discharge if the right king commanded it.
If there was no inheritance through daughters then marrying powerful men’s daughters would not be a common bargaining chip. Sansa has any cache at all because she is now – so far as anyone knows – the heir to Winterfell.
And people on Westeros speak of their family name just as British families did and they were not Salic. Part of the reasons why sons are important is that there is a real possibility of the family name going extinct if succession goes to your daughter.
Most important, if tradition is Salic then Daenerys would never be taken seriously. Once her brothers are dead, she’s no threat. Remember, Robert feared her son before he heard about dragons.
As I said, none of this is definitive, biiy the case for this kind if succession is far stronger than it is for Salic succession.
We heard Sam sing a lullaby about how the gods love the little children, and we heard Sansa sing a different hymn to calm the ladies down during the Battle of Blackwater.
Tywin told Tyrion that he will never be lord of Casterley Rock even though Jaime can’t inherit, implying it will either go to one of Cersei’s children (either the ones she has now or if she marries/has issue with Loras) or to Tywin’s brother, so apparently a lord (at least a very powerful one) can choose an heir and isn’t completely bound by inheritance laws.
When Stannis met with Renly he offered terms of surrender to Renly, saying that he would even name him his heir, until a son was born to him. I’m not sure thatis the same thing, though, what with Renly already being next in line of succession if they plan to keep that law.
Not trying to condone the horrible way the Freys dealt with being wronged, but this post really does illustrate just how serious Robb’s insult to them was. The Freys risked a lot by supporting Robb.
The obvious lesson here is: don’t follow your heart.
I believe Tywin was taking a “damn the law” attitude. There was in real history a way to disinherit “unsuitable” children and I’m pretty sure a physical defect like Tyrion’s would be accepted as a valid disqualification.
Frey had been a lifelong complete opportunist. It was mentioned in the first episode where he was seen that at the Battle of the Trident (where Robert Barratheon won the crown by defeating the last of the Targaryen armies) Frey’s men did not arrive until the battle was over, at which time they declared themselves loyal Barratheon subjects of course. It wasn’t just pride that would make him change sides.