Waif to Jaqen:
“May I kill her? You promised me this.”
Jaqen:
“You may kill her. But don’t do it in a way that makes the audience suffer interminably.”
Waif:
<Smirk>
Nah then we would argue over the efficacy of various poisons, the geasibility of their preparation at Westerosi tech level and the possible counter measures or antidotes that might be employed.
I mean, obviously I was joking.
But I sincerely think it’s a more worthwhile and more consistent outcome than what is* actually *happening. It means the whole myserious philosophy of the FM is not an utter waste of time. And we all ultimately love Arya so much that it’s a typical GRRM mindfuck.
It does have the advantage that it seems to be consistent with everything that we’ve seen so far, and it’s unlikely to be falsified this season. So maybe the writers will read SDMB and write it in for next season! Reveal and flashback to what really happened in the dark room.
It makes the FM philosophy meaningful and interesting that perhaps they would kill Arya, then kill all of her sworn enemies too to maintain the cosmic death balance.
An ointment made from essence-of-potato heals deep penetrating gut stabs within minutes?
Tyrion’s joke seems consistent with an interpretation of Westeros as, basically, the British Isles, with King’s Landing representing London, and the northern territory occupied by the Starks as Scotland.
I loved the acting Troupe. I liked seeing how Essos interpreted the events in Westeros. All of the characters were charming and interesting (I mean the actors in the show within the show). I would have loved to see more.
And Dorne as Cornwall?
Yeah, it’s been said Westeros is basically Great Britain blown up to the size of South America, but the geographical parallels are vague at best.
Dorne’s not in Westeros, so I’d put it in Spain, perhaps.
For the record, Tyrion’s joke goes like this:
I would expect a Lannister to be fastidious. However, we haven’t really been shown the Martells to be bug eaters or to be particularly disgusting, nor that the Starks are stingy or especially wine-loving. So the joke doesn’t work all that well even based on what we know of GoT.
Dorne is in Westoros, it’s one of the Seven Kingdoms.
I’m sure Olli’s mum could have boiled it up for us.
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Yes, especially since it is actually set in Spain (but as pointed out, it is in Westeros).
The Ironborn are clearly stand-ins for Vikings, but they’re on the wrong side of the continent.
I don’t see many parallels with other ethnic groups of Great Britain. The Northerners and the Hill Tribes of the Vale have vague similarities to the Celts, but not very clear ones.
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This would have been a great development. Not sure I would buy the motivation for the Waif to continue on as Arya, but definitely better than what we got from HBO.
Yeah, the Waif now playing Arya is unexplained given what we know so far. But I don’t think it would be too difficult to explain in subsequent episodes as part of an FM murder-genie strategy. FM-Arya initially heads into Westeros all confident and strutting, but her overconfidence soon gets her captured by enemies and shipped off to Kings Landing in a cage. This capture turns out to be murder-genie strategy to get her close enough to Cersei, the Mountain and other enemies to kill them. Who’d be afraid of an unarmed teenage girl?
Why would the Waif first kill Arya and then proceed to attempt to kill all of Arya’s enemies? As far as we were shown, the Waif’s motivation for disliking Arya was that Arya appeared to be favored by Jaqen.
Arya failed as a FM, their God wanted her dead and the Waif wanted Arya dead out of simple jealousy - that’s done.
Killing Arya’s enemies would be more part of an FM God-Of-Death philosophy, maybe because Arya “named” them while she was a friend of Jaqen and an apprentice, so somehow Jaqen & the FM feel that the God Of Death is owed them too, and send the newly graduated Waif on that mission.
I grant that it would need to be fleshed out – but really, at present the whole FM religion/philosophy that we have spent so much time trying to understand is incoherent, inconsistent and now seems to be meaningless to the plot. The original Jaqen seemed to be someone killing for deep philosophical reasons, not just money. Then we are given a bunch of mysterious supernaturalism, and then hints of killers-for-hire. I think tying this up somehow into some kind of relevant and semi-coherent philosophy would mean that the FM part of the last 2 seasons wasn’t a complete waste of time.
About the Arya story line. I’m just going to give myself a retcon lobotomy and believe that when we last saw her was when she had escaped from the many-faced god (MFG) and was bundled up in her little cave. Then after a very lucid dream (her hunger pierced her belly like a dagger in her dream metaphor) she awoke to find out the waif had found her in the cave. Arya snuffs the candle and ends up beating the waif with Needle.