Good pull, I certainly hadn’t remembered that. But I don’t think Tyrion would really have killed his own father until he found out the truth about Tysha.
I tried watching the first episode of the show yesterday and I had to stop it, because I couldn’t stand how old Sansa is. Seriously, the only way her character makes sense is if she’s 13! This big grown up girl is going to make those dumb decisions? I understand why they felt they had to do it, but I thought this shit was HBO?
Uh how old do you think she is? she doesn’t look any older than 13 to me. Hell, she hasn’t even had her period yet.
She’s like ten feet tall!
Sorry, i just don’t see it. She looks like a pre-teen to me.
I’ve been spending a lot of time with teenagers lately (sixteen, even, not even 13) and they are a LOT younger looking than that Sansa.
Sophie Turner was 14 at the time of filming.
Seriously? Well, I’m still annoyed. 
Of course that might be because I expected to be watching these with my boyfriend, with whom I just broke up, and am looking for something to be annoyed by.
So, the reason you stopped watching the first episode is because you couldn’t stand the apparent age of a character? AND you were wrong about it? How special.
-Joe
I’m pretty sure Sansa’s 11 in the first book. She doesn’t have a 13th nameday until Storm of Swords. They aged all the kids up a year or two for the show.
Yeah, having a 13 year old Dany railed by Khal Drogo until she couldn’t walk straight wasn’t going to fly.
The Stark and Lannister kids aren’t involved in much sex though. Robb’s character is probably the one that suffers the most. He doesn’t look like he should be very overwhelmed in a battle. The “young wolf” moniker will ring a little hollow.
I just reached this point in the book, and I agree with everything you say. I hate hate HATE it when an important plot point hangs on a smart character inexplicably acting stupidly, and IMO this more than qualifies.
Oh, I dunno. Not wanting to threaten the death of children fits in with Ned to me. Although it makes taking Theon as a ward a little odd.
The Iron Men are long-known pirates and vikings (in the verbal sense of the word). Taking a hostage to guarantee good behavior on their behalf makes sense, even to someone like Ned. And Ned treated Theon like one of his own children.
Cersei, on the other hand, is (at this point in the story) no more than the spoiled daughter of a noble family and the non-regnant queen. Ned expected her to flee with the children into exile rather than double down as she did. And even Cersei didn’t expect Joffrey to actually order Ned’s execution.
Although I do still think, as I noted above, that Ned is Lawful Stupid, to borrow a term from table-top RPG culture. I just don’t think he’s Utterly Stupid.
It’s been forever since I read the books, so help me out here. Did Tywin ever actually twig to the parentage of Joff, Tom and Myrcella? Did we see his reaction? That part’s a little fuzzy to me.
Anybody could have taken Theon. Agreed about everything else.
If he did it’s in the chapter that he sends Tyrion to be the Hand. I’m pretty sure it was never brought up explicitly, just Tyrion wondering what he thought about it.
My thought is that he probably knows it’s true, but was doing to try for a massive coverup. Lots of bodies in the Narrow Sea.
I have not read any of the books, but I am not disturbed by the idea of seeing any spoilers.
After seeing the first 3 episodes, I am particularly looking forward to two things, neither of which may happen.
I want Ned’s youngest daughter to gut little Prince Joffrey and watch him die a slow painful death.
I want the queen to be torn apart by dire wolves.
That is all for now, except that the king doesn’t seem to recognize just how pussy-whipped he is.
Are you asking if either of those things actually happens?
No, just hoping they will.
I will ask a more general question that I would like answered – does justice triumph?