Yesterday I went to the local swimming hole, mainly to observe social interactions. Okay, I was there to look at girls _
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I got quite a surprise this time! For the first time in the several years that I’ve been going to this park, I witnessed teenaged girls wearing bikinis without embarrassment. The crowd wasn’t large, but there were no less than four young ladies wearing tiny bikinis (I of course am not counting “little girls”, and adult women are not being considered here.)
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In the past, most of the teenaged girls I’ve seen wearing bikinis have seemed to be very embarrassed about it. It’s sometimes rather amusing to watch their attempt to make their bikinis cover more area than they were designed to. You know, constantly reaching back to adjust even the slightest bit of “ride-up”.
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More annoying than adjustments, though, are the efforts to cover up. I watch girls sunbathing in bikinis, and when they stand up the first thing they do is quickly put on a pair of shorts, or wrap a towel around their waist. Some go so far as to completely cover up with a towel, from armpits to knees. I’ve never been able to fugure this out.
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What is the point, I wonder, of buying a bikini, wearing it to a public place, and then attempting to cover it up all the time? I’ve watched girls go so far as to stand up, wrap a towel around their waists and walk down to the water where they wade in up to their knees before tossing the towel back up onto the beach. Then when they come back out of the water, they grab and wrap the towels and walk back to their blanket where they drop the towel again before they lie down.
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I have even watched girls, who are lying on a blanket no more than 10-15 yards from the restrooms, insist on putting on their shorts or wrapping a towel simply to walk the short distance to the restroom.
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I also wonder why most of these girls have no difficulty walking around with their bikini tops showing, but don’t want anyone to see their bikini bottoms!
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There is also a definite age division in these behaviors. Girls up to about 13YO usually seem to have little problem with running around in a bikini - even the ones who are clearly developing. Then around 14YO, they seem to suddenly discover modesty - but they don’t seem to make the connection that if they want to be covered up they should wear something other than a bikini _- and the coverup gyrations begin. Then, once they get to be 18 or so, they start looking comfortable in their bikinis again.
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Would some of you ladies care to explain this behavior? Not that there’s anything wrong with a girl trying be modest; but trying to be modest while wearing a string bikini…
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But back to my original comment. Yesterday, the first girl I noticed in a bikini was a dark-haired, dark-skinned beauty who appeared to be about 13-14 years old (I’m guessing this, but the five or so boys that were hanging around her also appeared to be that age). This girl had on just about the skimpiest string bikini I’ve ever seen at the park, and she seemed to be completely at ease with it. A bit later, I spotted two girls who looked like they were about 16YO, also wearing very tiny bikinis without embarrassment or attempts to cover up. And still later, a girl about 17YO, unashamed in her skimpy bikini.
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…makes me think they may be creeped out by you staring at them?
If you’re a teenager, under 17, then disregard this. Otherwise, what are you doing?
Maybe there not overly comfortable with the idea of someone staring at them as they walk around. I’ll wear a bikini sunbathing or in the water, but if Im going to walk around the beach or the park in your case, Id definatly put on shorts or a sarong.
Oh and regarding a slight ride up… that can be really uncomfortable, Im sure you’d fix it to if it were you!
I think its mostly a matter of them wanting to tan as much as their bodies as they can.
Bikini is necessary for that if they are just laying out, but maybe they don’t wish to garner the additional attention when walking around, etc when they feel more exposed to others.
I don’t understand … you’re there to gawk at them and yet you expect (would prefer?) them to be “ashamed” by their bikinis?
What the hell are you up to man? Ok, I’m not going to lie and claim I have never gone to the pool and checked out the chicks who were around, but I don’t take notes, and I don’t stare at people and make a study of it. I mean, if a cute girl walks by, I’ll take a look sure, but I am not just sitting there oogling the women. Your post is creeping me out.
I think it might be partly that when you buy a bikini, you don’t necessarily realize how it’ll feel to wear it out there in public. By the time you’re 18 you generally know already and stop buying them if you don’t like it.
I remember back in my teens buying a swimsuit that fit and was comfortable in the store, then wearing it in public for the first time and feeling reaaaally sorry I hadn’t let Mom talk me out of it. Yikes!
And it matters a lot who’s looking (or who you think is looking). Some of us would be comfortable wearing a teeny bikini around close friends and family at the lake, but not in a high-pressure social setting like the city pool can be. Or if That One Really Cute Guy suddenly shows up. Or That One Creepy Old Man, Eeyew, He’s Not Looking at Me Is He? (Geez, that wasn’t you, was it? Can’t tell from the OP)
And duh, it’s very common to be embarrassed by one’s butt and not one’s chest. Many teens are embarrassed by merely having a butt and cannot be convinced everyone else is not constantly observing how big it is, and think they would be happier if only their legs disappeared seamlessly into their pelvis, like Kate Moss etc.
And then there’s the issue of bikini stubble! Or bikini irritation. Gotta cover that nasty itchy stuff up, and it may not show up when you put on the bikini at home or in the dark changing room.
emilyforce, thank you - your answer was very informative. So some of this could simply be a case of “bikini regret”
And to some of you men who provided non-answers: it shouldn’t matter, but I guess I may as well defend myself here.
First, I make a point of not “staring” or “gawking” at these girls. However, I see no need to constantly avert my eyes when they are doing all these things right in front of me. It’s a small beach area, and you really can’t help seeing what’s going on around you. Unless of course I choose to sit at the “back” of the beach, facing away from the water and staring at the parking lot.
Second, these observations of mine have been made over the course of six consecutive summers going to this particular swim area. When the same behavior is repeated consistently over a long period of time, it’s hard not to notice. There’s no “taking notes” about it. If I had noticed that certain birds always flock to certain areas of the beach, there would be no problem. So why should it be a problem that I’ve noticed different girls every time exhibiting the same basic behavior? And it makes perfect sense that I’m going to notice an abrupt change in behavior.
Thirdly, I said “look”. I don’t approach or speak to these girls, except on a couple occasions when I already knew the girl from elsewhere. I don’t try to photograph or videotape them. I don’t lay there on the beach fantasizing about them. I don’t run to the men’s room to jerk off when I see them. I do look. I do notice them. If you need a reason, then this is it: there are four groups of people to look at down by the river during the time of day that I’m there (afternoon): males, children (infant-12), adult women 30-40+, and teenage girls. The first three groups don’t catch my eye because I’m not gay, I’m not a pedophile, and there are very rarely any adult women 30-40+ at the beach that time of day that could be considering “eye-catching” in a positive sense. I’m sorry, but a 200 pound mother of five squeezed into a swimsuit doesn’t encourage me to look twice. That leaves the teenage girls, who, simply put, are the only group left that give me any reason to give more than a passing glance. When there are thirty people on a beach that don’t appeal to me visually, yes, I’m going to notice the other 1 or 2 that arevisually appealing.
You know how drivers of red cars get more speeding tickets than average? It’s because the cop notices the red car in a group of cars painted less eye-catching colors that are going the same speed. For the same reason, a teenage girl in a bikini is going to get noticed more on a beach simply because she is more eye-catching than the rest of the beach’s occupants.
Here’s an secondary observation: in six summers, I have seen exactly one woman in a thong at this beach. Unfortunately, she was a woman who simply should not have been wearing a thong. Had to bleach my eyes.
Something tells me there is more going on in Mr. Phase42’s head than he might realize.
Hey, I did this same exact thing when I was a teenager. I can see how it might be puzzling.
I got a bkini because it was snakeskin print. And I was a punk rocker. There was no way you were going to get me into the pink flowering things that dominate the swimsuit racks. So it was an intsy-bitsy teeny-weeny snakeskin bikini for me.
However, at that age you start growing hips. Your probably used to your breasts at that point. And breasts are…well good. Of course you going to want them to show. But the hips? They are pretty big and ackward, especially when you arn’t used to them. And I have kind of oddly placed hip bones, so that was another negative even if I did weight all of 110 lbs.
Even if your happy with your hips and butt, there are other problems. You probably don’t shave your public region, so you’ve got the old peekaboo hairs going on. And you might have strech marks on your hips and upper thighs from all that puberty inspired growing.
Plus, if you live in a hot region you are probably used to wearing half-shirts (especially in childhood) when the weather gets hot. But you never run around in your undies. The feeling is ackward.
So there you go.
Well yeah, maybe, or not. Just noticing teenaged behavior, even scantily-clad teenaged behavior, isn’t necessarily evidence of pedophilia.
And I do notice attractive adult women, too, when they show up.
I’m not saying the guy is a pedophile, just that there is something weird going on in this thread. Sounds like some depression maybe? I don’t know, just that the OP, and its subsequent defenses gives me the willys.
Sorry Phase42, but I’m a little uncomfortable with your OP. While I understand your question (I think), I’m not confident that you could not have forseen some of us raising our eyebrows at your OP.
As for your original OP, I am not a young teen anymore but can say I’ve seen quite a bit of a change in society’s acceptance of the skimpy bikini. I just returned from Disney this week and can tell you that a large portion of the young girls were wearing sting bikini tops with shorts to the Park. When I was that age, wearing a bikini at all was a no-go.
Well here’s three cheers for you there buko! Nice to know you have eyes for the adults and the 13 year olds.
/still creeped out.
Modesty strikes at the strangest times.
I recall two separate occasions many moons ago when at separate watering holes that I frequented (separate parts of the world actually) it was agreed upon that the lovely lass working behind the bar would pull a shift in a thong. Yes, I know it’s sexist but that was the whole point of this promotion and these were the regular girls that everybody knew and flirted with. The girls working at these joints were all “lookers” and usually dressed in sexy and revealing wear and the guys present made no bones about enjoying their physical attributes and these gals LOVED the attention. So anyway in both instances, years apart and miles removed, the gals got so embarassed they wound up putting on towels. I, too, found this behavior peculiar. That’s all.
I don’t think Phase42 is being creepy. He’s just being honest.
Most any straight male, regardless of age, is going to notice scantily clad, attractive teenage girls. That’s just nature. An adult taking some action to arrange contact with one of them in hopes of something developing is across the line. Casual looking from a distance shouldn’t be a problem for anybody.
Also, pedophilia refers to a sexual attraction towards persons of a pre pubsecent age. The term doesn’t apply here.
I notice that cigarette butts seem to appear a lot at bus stops. I notice that My boss tends not to make eye contact. I notice that seagulls swarm into the ballpark when the human crowd is leaving. Yet, I do not want to fuck the cigarette butts, I do not want to fuck my boss, and I do not want to fuck seagulls.
He’s noticing cultural tendencies of adolescents, something we all do. Shall we villify those who start Pit threads titled “Stupid parents who let their 12-year-old wear low-rise jeans and thongs”? Or is it acceptable to discuss certain things only in terms of how wrong they are?
While I agree with your statement John Carter of Mars, it sounds like he is observing every bit of these very young GIRLS. And is noticing them in a rather sexual way, whether he means to admit that or not. He knows. I am a fast approaching thirty year old woman, and I do notice the pretty little teenaged girls. I notice that some are pretty, and most have this fresh look about them. But what I really notice about them, is how little they wear, how much they show, and how overly sexy they do present themselves as. And it REALLY bothers me. It shows to me a rapid decline in the whole idea that young girls are not supposed to be sexy. Especially to older men… And that is contagious and dangerous in so many ways. The older men that see them as “beauties” as opposed to cuties, should probably have the auto switch that says nope that does not look right, nor feel right to be attracted to a thirteen year old. That switch is lacking in some people. I am not judging though. I am not saying he has a problem, I am saying that it should not be right that he sees them in this manner and he may want to beware of that in himself.
To Phase42, the modesty is probably a good thing here, I would be disappointed that the little thirteen year olds feel perfectly comfortable running around half naked in front of grown men. And according to my seventeen year old sister and her friends, for the last 4-5 years, grown men’s attention is vastly unwanted and they are grossed out by it. One more thing, what do you mean you can’t find any attractive thirty to forty year olds? That is what I find creepy. Maybe you do like little girls, maybe that’s the look that you find attractive. I see beautiful sexy older women every day.
Maybe Phase42 thought they were attractive because they were actually gasp trying to be attractive. Nobody forced them to wear those bikini’s.
Only good part 'bout being 14 is oggling the girls and not being called a pervert.