It’s fine - I get you weren’t trying to make an unfavourable comparison. Apologies if I seemed like I was outraging for the sake of it 
I suppose we just differ in our experiences - I don’t think it would be particularly weird in the set up you describe for a man/woman to chip in to a discussion that is dominated by the other sex. Maybe it’s our different locations, or maybe we just see it differently.
Don’t tell me what I do.
I don’t think that any jokes intended to make fun of a person’s sexuality are really good-natured. It’s one of those things like height, weight, physical disability, etc. that people can only make fun of in themselves.
I’m so sorry you’re still experiencing this.
No, they are not the same thing. There’s nothing wrong with finding men attractive, but when a group of guys are talking about women they find attractive, they are not talking about people they find attractive. They are talking about women they find attractive. Basically if you have Guys 1-4, with #4 being gay:
Guy 1: Selma Hayek is hot!
Guys 2-3 Think of Selma Hayek naked
Guy 4 Thinks about work
Guy 2: Yeah Selma Hayek is hot, but what about Angelina Jollie
Guys 1+3 Think of Angelina Jollie naked
Guy 4 Hmm this is boring
Guy 4: But what about that Johnny Depp!
Guys 1-3 Think about ordering food
If you don’t find women attractive you can’t be part of that conversation. It’s about shared values and good natured arguing, not informing your friends what type of people you find attractive. It’s no different than talking about sports, baking, gardening, or whatever. If you have no interest in the subject, then you can’t really participate in it. Changing it to a subject that the other participants have no interest in (hot men) isn’t how conversations are supposed to go.
Well, we were having a conversation about how people who aren’t you feel about things, so you can’t really express an opinion because talking about how you feel about things is changing it to a subject that the other participants have no interest in.
Or, put more plainly since you might not catch the point of that comment, you are just redefining a “conversation” narrowly enough to keep people out, which is exactly what the OP and IS were talking about. So you’re pretty much proving their point for them.
treis- If you know someone is unable to participate in a conversation, then having it in front of them is just beyond rude.
That’s taking at face value your explanation, which I frankly don’t. But even if it were so, you are still in the wrong.
Then try not having a conversation like that around and with people that you know don’t share your value or about topics that you know they have no interest in.
It’s especially ridiculous when it’s two guys talking.
Straight guy : Wow, that girl over there is hot and has great tits.
Gay gay : And the guy she’s with has a great butt!
Straight guy : Eww, I don’t want to hear about that!
So why is it assy for me to talk about something that interests me but not assy for them to talk about something that doesn’t interest me?
That’s a ridiculous standard. Not everyone in every group shares every interest. At times the conversation will wander onto a subject you don’t have interest in. At that point you either wander away to find another group to talk to, or twiddle your thumbs until something interesting comes up.
Gay gay misses the point of the first statement. The first statement is essentially “look at that women, evaluate her physical appearance, and report back”. Gay gay misses that meaning, and instead comes back with “look at that guy, evaluate his physical appearance, and report back”. Which is precisely what straight guy does.
In the hypothetical exchange that Antinor posted, the straight guy did as good a job of reporting back on the hot guy as the gay guy did on the hot woman.
How is “Eww, I don’t want to hear about that” an evaluation of someone’s physical appearance?
I see you’re never going to understand. I’m finished with this.
“Ew, I don’t want to hear that!” is a response to “Check out that guy’s ass.” Well guess what? “Check out that guy’s ass” is a response to “Check out that chick’s tits.”
I’m guessing he’d read it as an oblique way of saying “I don’t find this person hot.”
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I agree with this completely concerning this subject.
Yeah fuck that. Don’t want my opinion on sexual matters don’t have the conversation with or in front of me. If you want to express how rude you are and ask what my opinion on so and so(female) I’m absolutely going to counter your rudeness by bring my sexual interests into the conversation. I tend to make sure that person understands their error. ‘Well she’s not my type but if you lost a few pounds I’d tap your ass anytime baby.’ You go to the corner and twiddle your thumbs for a bit asshole.
How is “the idea of having sexual relations with that person physically disgusts me” not a critique of their physical appearance. I’m not saying it’s a nice or good answer, but it at least is responding to the initial statement.
“I don’t want to hear about that” isn’t saying “I don’t want to have sex with men.” It’s saying “hearing that you find a man attractive is gross.”
And if that doesn’t perfectly encapsulate exactly what the OP is talking about, I don’t know what does.
Not sure where you’re going here. I’m not terribly discriminate of my porn surfing. Go to any site like xhamster or something and you’ll inevitably see gay mixed in with straight, particularly if you search for something like Gym or blowjob. If I stumble on gay porn I’m not repulsed immediately. If its cock in butt though I am. In fact on the opening screen for xhamster the other day there was a female butthole that looked like her guts were literally falling out of her asshole. That was also repulsive.
ETA: this whole line of discussion doesn’t really fit here actually. Explicit porn descriptions were probably not required. You’re right. My bad.
I’m sorry it upsets you so much, but the fact remains that attractive women are a different subject than attractive men. If you’re with a bunch of guys discussing the first, jumping in with the second is changing the subject to one they have little to no interest in.