I think I missed the tail end of the episode, or maybe just forgot. The hotel manager was a Hundjager and the owner lady was the face sucker. Was the old guy in the wheelchair a Wesen?
yes - but not quite sure what kind -
Looked a lot like a fish to me.
So… something I’ve been trying to figure out for the past season and a half. Is Renard just basically an opportunist dickhead, or is something more interesting going on? It seemed like for a long time he was, if not one of the good guys, at least a somewhat sympathetic not-bad-guy. But at some point, he made a pretty hard face/heel turn, and seems to be the primary antagonist to Nick & co.
Did I miss something in particular that prompted this shift, or is it just basically explained by lust for power on Renard’s part?
Not really… Renard seemed to be pretty easily manipulated by Black Claw, making the switch to the Dark Side rather quickly. They did have his daughter after all, which made it (at least initially) a forced partnership. They certainly knew how to manipulate him though… He totally ran with the Mayor thing. I kept thinking that he was only going to play along long enough to get his daughter back - and he’d switch back to “good” and working with the team, but that never happened. Seems like lazy writing to me that they didn’t really flush out the character change…
Glad it’s not just me; I was kind of baffled at first, thinking “Well, they have his daughter, so he’s doing this under duress.” And I honestly expected him to be a sort of double-agent, or maybe working from the inside to get control of Black Claw, and that he’d be sympathetic to Nick & co.
But no… from what I can tell, once they dangled the prospect of a mayorship in front of him along with a pretty redhead, he was all in for the bad guys, making me wonder if he’d ever actually been anything else.
Speaking of Renard and things not flushed out… Here’s hoping they give us some more details about the ‘Royals’ by the end of this thing… Unless I missed it, they never really showed us what type of Wesen the Royals are. Renard is 1/2 Zauberbiest, and 1/2 royal. What does a full Royal look like when they woge? Maybe getting more into the history of the stick-of-destiny will get us some details, but i’m not holding my breath.
re: Reynard -
Initially, he was out to kill the GrimmAunt - they were unaware that Nick was a Grimm.
They also made it pretty clear after the reveal that Reynard was a Zauberbiest, that Portland was under his control. ( he took the ear of that one reaper as payment, he also sicked the priest on the one running the fight club, etc).
At some point, Reynard decided to try and use the Grimm - to have him on his side.
Then we had the coins - which showed Reynard’s true ambitions.
Then the Royals royally blew up -
Then came black claw - and while I think Reynard was initially playing both sides - he’s now in to deep and a bit insane - channeling Jack the Ripper will do that to a fella.
I was absolutely sure Renard was just playing the bad guys. Boy was I wrong!:smack:
You say that almost like it’s a bad thing… 
Are the Royals wesen? I don’t recall seeing any woge besides Renard. Also, I remembered him as being half-wesen, half-civilian. (I forget the real term.) since his mother is a hexenbiest, that would make his father the Royal. Unless she’s also a Royal.
Hence my confusion: what are they the royal family of?
They are mostly Kehrseite-Schlich-Kenn. Since they know of the Wesen, they use and manipulate them
Wow, that was a real fun episode. Loved Hank digging himself in the mirror, singing Marvin Gaye.
I couldn’t figure out at first why Renard suddenly decided not to go after Diana, but then it clicked. Yeah, she can take care of herself.
Great line from Diana. I saw it coming a mile away but still laughed.
Diana: “Who are you?”
Bad guy: “I’m the guy your daddy stabbed in the back.”
Diana: “No, that was Mr. Bonaparte.” 
The Diana part was great. They do have some subtlety with her (she doesn’t go berserk every time she doesn’t go her way)
Didn’t Hank have two glasses (drinking the glass meant for Rosalee)? I could see him drinking his own, but he drank another (the one that would attract him to Wu)
But he also never saw Wu so that may check out.
Brian
That was a truly terrible episode.
Being lazy (and having dropped my stats class) - what are the odds that only one person (Hank) drank his own glass? I realize that the distribution wasn’t necessarily random (the waiter could control it, and in typing this I realize he must of since no one ended up with their actual partner), but curious anyway.
And non-random implies that Rosalee was going to get Hank, and Hank was going to have Wu.
Wow, was I off: I thought it was a two-step thing. You got primed by the champagne, but later on you fell for whoever you first saw AFTER DRINKING COFFEE.
Which may sound silly, but otherwise why did Wu fall for the random waitress?
Did like the “Ransom of Red Chief” subplot.
Post 35: The waiter had the hair collection baggies numbered - the part how he had the glasses marked to correspond I may have missed, but that was certainly implied based on showing the baggies were numbered. Post 36: When the waitress nearly knocked the tray over in the kitchen and saved one glass from toppling, a strand of her hair landed in what turned out to be Wu’s glass.
Ah, I missed that. I have a bad habit of doing other things while watching tv, in this case I was folding laundry. Sometimes I’m looking away at the exact wrong moment.:o
Hank falling in love with himself was really funny.
Another appearance by NeanderWu. I wonder if they’re going to deal with that before the show ends? We’ve speculated here before that maybe the magic stick could cure him, but it doesn’t seem to be something the characters are concerned about.
I also wonder how they’re going to deal with the Diana situation as the series nears its end. She’s an honest-to-gosh psychopath with magic powers. You can’t just ‘happily-ever-after’ that away.
Whatever that demon-hell abyss that was in the bathroom mirror, I think Diana is going to end up involved with that somehow. Like Eleven in Stranger Things style. The only way to reconcile her character is to sacrifice it, but since she’s a child she has to do it herself. If they don’t go that route then I think the series will have to end with her character as an ominous question mark.