Grimm Season 5

Juliette/Eve don;t need/want ‘curing’ - if anyone gets cured - my guess is it would be Adiland in the sense that she truly doesn’t want the hexenbiest inside her.

But then that would imply that the Wesen are ‘cursed’ or ‘need curing’ - and wouldn’t that also mean that Monroe is no longer BlutBhad?

I really hope they don’t take that road.

As for Renard - I think we know he’s going to play the game to get into the BlackClaw, but I’m guessing he won’t mind being Mayor either.

But it seems like a Hexenbiest is a bit different from the other Wesen, in that a Hexenbiest can be ‘made,’ like Juliette or Adalind after she was de-hexed the first time. As far as we know, that’s not true of the other Wesen.

THere is definitely something different there - for sure - maybe Nick will use the stick and ‘cure’ them both, then tell Juliette/Eve to get lost.

As ‘bad’ as Adalind was*, she was never quite as Evil as Juliette became.

*I give her a pass on the attempted murder of the aunt - timing and all - even Nick has forgiven her for that.

I’m talking about her personality change. She may think she’s fine but she seems to have become a drone, being controlled by the shadow organization (whatever their name is, I forget).

In the beginning of the show a characteristic of Hexenbiests is that they were loyal to royalty. So she was just following Renard’s orders. As the show went on the writers seemed to care less and less about that characteristic.

To me, he has a look of insane glee.

I don’t think we can make that generalization, and I’m not sure it even applies to the hexenbiests we saw. Most of the ones we’ve seen have some level of cooperation with royals, but I don’t believe it was out of loyalty. (Adalind’s early relationship with Renard may be an exception–I think she had some personal loyalty to him, probably because she was romantically attracted to him.) For the most part, I think they’ve been looking for money and/or personal power of various kinds. The royals are wealthy and have a lot of influence, and some hexenbiests angle to get a piece of that for themselves in various ways. Frau Pech, for example, was looking for the highest bidder, not trying to secure the child for the royals out of loyalty.

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In the beginning Adalind’s loyalty to Renard seems to validate the above.

The part about working for royalty is substantiated from one of the Blu-Ray guides referenced in that article, but I haven’t seen much to support the claim about their loyalty.

I agree they aren’t like that. I was just saying I think in the beginning the writers meant for them to be that way, but they quickly abandoned it.

So you’re right, they aren’t like that.

Since the original Grimms were crusaders returning from Jerusalem with “treasure” that they then hid. It would be an obvious leap to the stick being a piece of the cross. I truly hope they don’t go that route.

Why not?

The fuss when they declare that Jesus was a wesen might be worth it.

You know who else was a Wesen?

Longinius was a Grimm?!?:eek:

They brought Adalind’s Hexenbiest back to the surface sooner than I thought they would but it was worth it to see her protect Rosalee. Hopefully they don’t spend too much time toying with her regression. I don’t want Adalind to go back to full on evil but I can deal with a temporary arc. Maybe they’ll figure out a way to keep her Chaotic-Good at least.

I forgot all about the Hexenbiest loyalty thing. They’re probably as likely to drop it as they are to bring this back up.

Random thought: what if hexenbiests aren’t wesen at all?

There are major differences between them and other wesen we’ve seen. They can be turned into normal humans, and vice versa. Their powers and wogue can be suppressed. When they change state–getting de-biested, re-biested, or suppressed–there’s a visible external manifestation of one or more biests. (In the scene when Adalind took the suppression potion, it appeared to me that the manifestation was two ghostly entities fighting each other.)

It seems more like a transmissible symbiote than a species of wesen. Re-biesting Adalind required material taken from another hexenbiest and cultured in a very specific way. Suppressing her biest appeared to introduce another biest–again, taken from a dead hexenbiest–to fight her own.

We’ve seen a parasite that causes the victim to manifest traits similar to wesen–enhanced strength and a wogue-like transformation–as well as behavioral changes. The transformation is fully visible, unlike the normal wogue, but a full wogue can be visible to normal humans. Perhaps the biest condition is more similar to the grausen then to wesen. I find it an interesting parallel that Grimms are immune to the grausen and that their blood can drive out a biest.

If so, there might be a pharmacological solution for Adalind.

You’ve clearly given this alot of thought - and it seems that Rosalee is searching her books for said solution - perhaps you should give her a call?

3/18/16 episode

While I liked the concept of the Wesen-of-the-Week in this episode–the Lucha Libre mask and the contract and everything–I was more annoyed that we didn’t get much advancement on the big events from last week: The magical healing stick! Adalind’s biest is waking up! Vote Renard! So I had a hard time being interested in this one.

Oh, and I liked that we saw Nick again making entries in his Grimm journal.

That seems to be a compulsive behavior for Grimms, beyond its practical value. If a Grimm doesn’t at least draw sketches, it’s probably a bad sign of some sort.

I’d love to, but she’s married to a guy who can pull people’s arms off. :smiley: