MOL’s story reminds me of the time one summer when I was selling cars when a couple drove up and asked for a specific used car. I knew we didn’t have one, but I told them I think we might, and they should park and I would show it to them. The one I “thought” we had was JUST sold (oh no!) but we had a couple of very similar cars.
Point being, if you drive on the lot, I’m going to try to sell you a car. And if I get in your apartment at the end of a date, I’m going to try to take you to poundtown.
All of which was just to say: MOL, whatchou doin’ tonight, girl?
Sometimes people reason out loud; sometimes people are encountering ideas for the first time. What you’ve discussed over and over is new to them, and just like you had to discuss it and think about it for a first time, so do they.
It’s a thread titled “Men y u no listen”. An explanation of why men don’t listen is the fucking point - or at least, a fucking point - of the thread. When the answer to that question is, basically, this is the set of cultural expectations that leads to this happening, repeatedly saying that it isn’t, or it shouldn’t be, is a waste of time.
You can either try to change the situation, which will involve both men and women listening to each other and changing their behaviour, or you can ignore what’s being said, insult and ridicule people (see most of the replies to my post for a cite), and leave things as they are. It’s clear from this thread and others that most of the people who are vocal about this issue here favour the latter.
You started this fire down in my soul
Now can’t you see it’s burning out of control
Come on (now) satisfy the need in me
Only your good lovin’ can set me free
Ah, Hell, another installment of “Everything I Know About Sex I Learned from the Male Cast of The Big Bang Theory”. Some of you drycods are a little late to the party, but you are probably hoping you’ll find one passed out on top of the coats.
Perhaps we have a failure of communication here. The internet meme that takes the form of “A y u no B” is not actually a request for information from A about the reasoning behind its refusal to do B. Rather, it is an expression of impotent frustration at the unfortunate state of affairs depicted. Click here for more details.
Of course you are right. The only way to end rape is to engage calmly and rationally with every comer who insists that it is totally understandable that the man in our story chose to interpret a literal request for no sexual advances as a seductive wink. Gee, with your help, we might just solve this “rape” issue tonight!
Internet lovers don’t listen because they lack real life experience, are bitter and mistrustful of the women they can’t easily get, and are operating on TV tropes to direct their actions. Men with actual experience listen to the word “no” and either pack up and move on, or they have patience which is far more likely to pay off than attempted force.
Seriously. Some of these so-called “men” undoubtedly need a helmet to get outside of their house. If they’ve even seen a real woman beyond their mother, I’d be shocked.
Cue cutting, sexist remark. I’ll brace myself for the stunning wit to be directed my way that’s already been on display. I’m sure I’ve signaled for it.