here is how they’ll discover your body: neighbors call the police to report that the perpetual stench coming from next door has suddenly and inexplicably lessened
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Thiamin?
yes, it does. it has been clear from the beginning to most of us. the “mixed signals” crap was debunked, thoroughly.
I laughed out loud when I saw that.
THAT’S the answer! :smack:
Ohhhh…debunked! See, nobody told me! And ‘thoroughly’? Wow!
I now see why after 17 pages this is still going. Those that read “mixed signals” into an unambiguously stated NO are functionally retarded. It explains so much.
Exactly. “Mixed signals” might be a woman coyly saying “well… I really shouldn’t” while she stares at you breathlessly and twirls her hair, then invites you up for coffee.
But flat out saying no, nothing will be happening, I’m aware of the trope of inviting a man up for some excuse but that is not what is happening here, and repeatedly running away from his physical advances and repeatedly asking him to phone a taxi immediately = the antithesis of “mixed signals”
Nobody is supposed to tell you, mouthbreather. You’re supposed to read the thread yourself. It has been debunked thoroughly. What you’re posting is barely literate willfully ignorant garbage.
And wishful thinking, apparently. Think you’ll get away with ignoring a verbal no, hh just because you subscribe to the *mixed signals *trope? You telling us you’d seriously gamble on that?
At least handsomeharry has saved Hentor the trouble of reading through this thread to find the attitude that has taken this thread to 17 pages. Just looking on the bright side.
Look, I know it’s not the popular position to take, but some posters really have been coming down really hard on guys who are trying to get into this conversation. I’ve felt that from the beginning. It’s really hard to have a constructive dialog with this much hostility. I don’t know if I would call it projecting, but it seems like any guy with any counterpoint is being lumped into the most extreme category. I think that’s all Hentor was trying to say.
feel free to try to have a good-faith dialogue with handsomeharry on the topic of consent.
no, really. give it a shot.
let us know how that goes
I’m not talking about him. His statements about MOL playing the dumbass are patently ridiculous. And treis, of course, very much deserves a pitting for his stubbornly archaic beliefs about women.
You’ve made some great points in these threads and represented victims’ perspectives very well. Would that I had so much eloquence. I understand it can be cathartic to vent at someone who holds a perspective you loathe - the only Pit thread I ever started was targeting a racist, and I basically spent the entire time mocking him until he was banned. However, not everybody is coming in from that extremist perspective. There are more nuances to some of these guys’ opinions than they are getting credit for, and some of it is genuine ignorance vs. willful ignorance. It can be a real ideological turn-off, if you’re somewhere on the fence or just honestly uninformed, to be lumped in with extremists.
I’m just asking that some people consider the words of their opponents more carefully.
One thing that would be useful is that when reading posts where men are explaining why some men think the way they do, for example about no meaning maybe or an invitation to an apartment being an invitation to sex, that it doesn’t mean that the poster is condoning those views. Understanding why someone holds a view you find reprehensible is going to help you change that view far more than simply shouting that it’s wrong.
This isn’t directed at anyone specifically, least of all olivesmarch4th.
has it perhaps occurred to you that we don’t need those things explained to us because we have been over this shit literally billions and billions of times both on the internet and in our real lives
if not, please explain why not
The problem is that when they are making a case for why the interpretation could have been a correct one, it sounds an awful lot like condoning the interpretation when they put forth personal examples defending the interpretation.
Shame on you! Steophan is a unique and precious snowflake, with truly singular viewpoints on these issues that he only wants to share!
colander is extremely rad, but you are one of the most eloquent posters on this (or any other) message board. I know everyone adores you, and you’re probably sick of it, but I had to say it.