He Hate Me FF keeper league

Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
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I can see the rationale here, but for my money Cadillac has at least done it before, Jackson’s next big season will be his first. Where did Edge go? What were the rest of the 1st rounders? I’m at a loss to see how Jackson becomes the 10th guy taken, though I’m sure your league scoring took Manning and the WRs off the top of the board.

I agree with everything you’re saying here except that the Saints are not a pathetic team. They have tons of talent and with the Brees for Brooks upgrade you can expect a sea-change on the field. I think Deuce will be a good option for a RB, I mean we’re comparing him to Chester Fucking Taylor here, in a Minny offense with no o-line and subpar WRs.

Curse you and your 5-leaf clover!

Yes I’m a homer, but also realize I’m a homer with very modest expectations of Da Bears. My pessimism is based on something totally different, by my count you have exactly 2 players on teams who have returning head coaches, 4 if we count defense and kicker. None of which are really impact guys. I’d be very very concerned.

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Sorry I haven’t been much of a participant this preseason. My damn life keeps on interfering with my fantasy football.
Burleson (11 so 9?)
Big Ben (12, so 10?)
Travis Taylor. (14 so 12)

I really have no time to research this at all, so please people, give me some input. I normally wouldn’t ask, but I really have a lot on my plate.
5. Pentium None (Nurse Carmen)
WR C. Chambers (5th round pick)
RB M. Faulk (4th round pick)
TE C. Cooley (10th round pick)
BN N. Burleson (11th round pick) - kept last year
BN T. Taylor (14th round pick)
BN J. Bettis (7th round pick) - kept last year
BN B. Roethlisberger (12th round pick) - kept last year

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Ben doesn’t get any yards; he averaged low 200s per game last year. He also missed games due to injury in both of his seasons in the league. He’s almost certainly worth more than the 10th rounder you’d spend on keeping him, but IMO he’s really not starter material.

Cooley looks like your best value keeper, though I seem to strongly over-value TEs. In the NFC, there was a clear upper echelon of three guys with almost interchangeable numbers, and everyone else was a distant fourth. Those three guys were Crumpler, Shockey, and Cooley. Cooley was a friggin’ beast, and I predict this year will be more of the same.

Here’s the bye weeks:

Chambers: 8
Burleson: 5
Cooley: 8
Taylor: 6
Ben: 4

So no issue with Chambers and Burleson having the same bye, which is nice. Pick up one more receiver with a different bye than either of them and your receiving core should hold up. If you keep both Chambers and Cooley, you might want to be wary of RBs with the same bye. With your #5 overall, that means avoid Clinton Portis, Rudi Johnson and Ronnie Brown.

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I’m not sure I agree with you a hunnert percent on your policework, there, Lou.
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Steven Jackson
Rushing
Att Yards Avg Lg TD 20+
254 1046 4.1 51 8 6
Receiving
No Yards Avg Lg TD 20+
43 320 7.4 27 2 1

Cadilac Williams
Rushing
Att Yards Avg Lg TD 20+
290 1178 4.1 71 6 7
Receiving
No Yards Avg Lg TD 20+
20 81 4.1 15 0 0

Jackson had more total yards and more TD’s in fwer total touches last year. And this year he won’t have Faulk leeching 600 yds from scrimmage. Caddy still has Pittman taking away 3rd down opportunities. And I haven’t even brought up strength of schedule yet. Hey, I’m a Bucs fan and I love Caddy, but Jackson is a better fantasy back this year.

First round went:
[ol]
[li]Shaun Alexander, RB SEA [/li][li]Larry Johnson, RB KCC [/li][li]LaDainian Tomlinson, RB SDC [/li][li]Edgerrin James, RB ARI [/li][li]Peyton Manning, QB IND [/li][li]Clinton Portis, RB WAS [/li][li]Ronnie Brown, RB MIA [/li][li]Rudi Johnson, RB CIN [/li][li]Lamont Jordan, RB OAK [/li][li]Steven Jackson, RB STL [/li][li]Tiki Barber, RB NYG [/li][li]Carnell Williams, RB TBB [/li][li]Steve Smith, WR CAR [/li][li]Chad Johnson, WR CIN [/li][/ol]
I should add that the commissioner changed the scoring system this year, but didn’t communicate it to the 3 of who were drafting remotely until the 3rd round (new commish, 1st year running the draft, yada yada yada, payment in blood, etc.) The old scoring system heavily favord rushing TD’s over both yardage and receiving TD’s. Had I known about the shift when I drafted, I would have taken Barber at 10.

They are pathetic on D, and play in a division with 3 strong teams. 2 of those teams have oustanding D, the other looks to be above average this year. Outside of division they play the NFC East and AFC North this year. List the quality D’s: Steelers, Bengals, Ravens, Cowboys, Redskins, Giants, Eagles. It is a recipe for “throw while behind” and “look for the big play”, neither of which points to massive carries by the Deuce.

Hey, I loved him 3 years ago, but this year he will be spending most of his time squatting behind the Bush.

True – but the new coach (and especially O coordinator) is a good thing for Detroit and almost certainly a good thing for Taylor’s numbers in Minnesota (not necessarily for th eteam, but what do I care – the Vikings cursed themselves when they moved into a dome.) And in St Louis I hardly think Scott Linehan is likely to be a bad thing for the numbers of Holt and Jackson. Mccarthy in GB worries me more for the running game (mostly because of the new blocking scheme for a line without contintuity). I don’t think Favre cares what the system might indicate, and he has a long-standing comfort zone with Driver.

I’ll take your point on Coles, though, which is one reason he was available at 11. (Pennington’s rag-arm being the other.)

Still – I would be willing to bet you head up that I do not finish in the bottom four in this league. I’ll even wager for top 4. If I fall in the middle 6 we can call it a wash. (League has 2 divisions with 2 playoff spots each, so we can either make the wager “top 4 records” or “make the playofs”. I’m good either way.)

105

For my money, you should keep:

Cooley @ 8.10
Burleson @ 9.5
Roethlisberger @ 10.10

Neither Burleson nor Roethlisberger are great keepers at those slots, though. They represent value but are not “stud quality” and if you aren’t confident in either one you would be better to drop him and free the slot. You might also consider Chambers @ 3.5. It’s a little higher than I value him, but some folks love his potential this year. If you don’t keep him, there’s a decent chance you could pick him at 3.5 anyway, but if you feel very strongly about him this year you should go ahead and lock him up.

Just my opinion, obviously. YMMV

106

I’ll take your bet, whats the stakes?

Regarding those coaches, I can understand the optimism since they all sucked previously but none of those guys are exactly proven quantities. Quite the opposite. I frankly think it’s a wise move to hire a new coach, the NFL tradition of retreading old guys is dumb, but typically they take a few years to pan out. John Fox was only 7-9 in his first year with a pretty meager offense. Defenses tend to reverse direction faster than offensive systems.

From a fantasy perspective it’s a red flag…though, it certainly could pan out. It’s a measure of uncertainty is all.

Point taken, I didn’t realize that Jackson quietly put together such a solid second half. Though he did play 1 one more game, yards per attempt is pretty meaningless from a fantasy perspective. I can see how these guys are pretty much on par based off last years numbers, of course you can see that I’d tend towards Gruden’s guy.

How much agonizing did that guy do over Portis and his bum shoulder with that 6th pick? I don’t get the LaMont Jordan love either.

107

How about a public groveling (on SDMB) plus a case of the winner’s favorite beer?

For coaches: I think Linehan and Martz are well established on teh offensive side of the ball. I have no idea if the teams will have winning records; I just want offensive stats. Playing in the NFC North and NFC West are big pluses for that, lots of weak defenses (though Arizona and Seattle show some signs of having improved defensively.)

The guy who chose Portis had a makor hard-on for the Washington offense. If they really do master the Saunders system in year 1 (and Portis’ shoulder holds up) he might well dominate the league. I’m betting he won’t, though.

I’m with you on the Lamont Jordan love. I’ve see him ranked as high as 6th RB (before Portis hurt his shoulder.) I just don’t see it myself. I see him as middle of the pack of the large “second tier”. (or 3rd, if you separate the big 3 from Edge, Tiki, and a healthy Portis)

108

I will be keeping Stephen Jackson (for a second round pick), and that’s it.

Williamson hasn’t shown me anything, and the rest of my options blow, so I’m planning on a much better draft this year.

One week!!!

109

Done and done!

I figured the Jordan bandwagon would have been derailed last season, it’s not like Shell’s expected to turn that line into bunch of road graders, I’m looking at you Gallery, and the D certainly won’t have them in a lot of grind it out on the ground style games.

110

Chitown defense
Chester Taylor
Ricky Williams (not really :frowning: )

111

Check your email, please.
tick tick tick

112

Is there going to be a final list of the keepers posted? When? I need to cross the keepers off my cheet sheet so I don’t take them by mistake.

113

Oh, and the draft is next Monday, right?

114

Done and Done.

115

Ellis – I we have a last minute trade (accepted by Hamlet at 11:08) if we can squeeze through before the door shuts:

Spiritus Gives: Terry Glenn + 14.11 round pick (193)
Hamlet Gives: 9.8 (120)

And my keeper declaration thus becomes:
Warrick Dunn @ 3.14 (42)
Tom Brady @ 4.12 (54)
Santana Moss @ 6.13 (83)

116

And one more trade.

Omni Gets Munch’s: 4th (4.14), 13th (13.1), 14th (14.14) and 16th (16.14)

Munch gets Omni’s: 5th (5.1), 13th (13.13), 14th (14.2) and 16th (16.2)

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Before I forget – pick your measurement criteria:[ul]
[li]top/bottom 4 in win-loss (pts scored as tie breaker)[/li][li]make playoffs/bottom 2 of either division[/li][li]top/bottom four in total points scored[/ul][/li]
Oh, and I’m fond of Old Peculier these days.

118

Difficult to say, if I’m to assume that none of your players will become absentee owners I’m inclined to go with the last criteria. The divisional/playoff leaves room for some peculiarities of distribution and the win/loss could be screwy depending on how often all the teams match up. For simplicity’s sake I’ll go with overall points.

If we’re to be buying from the obscure beers catalog, perhaps I’ll need to have myself a couple 4-packs of Goose Island Bourbon County Stout. Be sure to get yourself one too.

119

Yep, I’ll post it sometime between midnight and dawn Wednesday morning. Once I do, that’s it, the trade declaration period is over. While I doubt it’ll be right at 12:01am, it would be better not to play fast and loose with the deadline. I’m trying not to spam the thread with giant text dumps.

The plan is to post the up-to-the-minute keeper list, trading log, and picks list in one giant post for easy reference. Of course, trades between then and the live draft will render the picks list obsolete, but you do what you can, right?

At the same time I make that roundup post, I’ll be sending an email out to everybody that include their own personalized draft worksheet. They are on-pager Excel spreadsheets that list pretty much everything you need to know on draft day. (If you can’t use Excel files for some reason, I can convert yours to a PDF file. Let me know via email.) While you can obviously just keep the file open in another window during the live draft, it would be much better IMO to print it out.

Nurse Carmen, I read your other thread. Congrats, and I understand you’re quite busy. If I haven’t heard from you by late afternoon I’ll come looking for you in email.

120

That’s like Advanced Trading 202. Very impressive.