Help me get some new friends

I cosign featherlou’s recommendation, about spending time alone. Do you always have to have someone to “hang out” with? There’s nothing wrong with going straight home after school/work and just chilling with the radio, with a good book, or with a hobby. If you can learn to keep yourself pre-occupied–become your own best friend, first–then you won’t be so desparate to hang out with just anyone who comes along.

Also, you don’t need a bunch of friends. All of your tales of misadventure always seem to involve mulitiple accomplisses. Even the most angelic people turn into jerks when they become just “a part of the crowd”. Perhaps you should try to maintain a tighter circle, like one or two people. Peer pressure drops when you’re in a more one-on-one situation, and you’re more likely to be able to control what happens when you’re with that person.

It occurs to me that you may do well having an older friend, START. Most everyone here is considerably older than you are and we like you (and you seem to like us). Why don’t you find an adult IRL that can serve as a friend and mentor?

When I was in high school, I had friends my own age, but I also made it habit to befriend a teacher or two. They provided an escape from the petty, juvenile crap that teenagers get into, and they also had great advice for me when I had problems. And I dunno…knowing that someone older and more “put together” cared for me made a big difference in my self-esteem. I still exchange emails with my “grown up” friends and have lunch with them when I’m in town. Your Youth Pastor may be a good start.

Lastly (sorry for the long-ass lecture), you could try keeping the friends you have now, but be the better person around them. We could blame your friends for all the mishaps you get in to, but we have to admit that you often have a part to play too. If your friends are giggling at gay people, tell them to, “Shut the fuck up. That shit is played out!” Or, if they are throwing stuff out of windows, control your own impulses and don’t follow suit. Surely there’s a good reason why you’ve befriended the people you have. Do your best to bring out those good qualities, but try just as hard to stomp out the bad when they come out. You might just have a positive impact on them. If it doesn’t work out, dump 'em.

So far you have gotten a lot of good general answers, I will try with a few more specifics.

Try looking at your situation as a chance to do something entirely new.

To find out what is something that would be right for you, take some time and write down all the things you really enjoy doing.

Then make a list of all the things you think would be really great to know how to do.

Make a list of the places you like to go to, or would like to go to.

Think of the people you would most like to be like. What do they do?

Think of the people you have met that are the most interesting, what makes them so interesting?

What subject would you like to be an “expert” in? At your age, if you started really learning about something that interests you now, you could become quite knowledgeble about that subject in a few years, and really have an edge later in life when looking for a job you would like. If you know what you would like to do for a living, or what industry you think you would like to work in, get with some people who do that and ask then what you might start doing now so you will be ready to do that later.

My niece wanted a career in the music industry. When she was your age she volunteered at a local radio station and learned a lot about how they operated. She got to meet all the local celebrities and helped put on fundraisers. When she graduates, she knows she can get a job there if she wants. But she also made many other contacts and has lots of other options as well.

Once you find something to do, the making friends part will come naturally. You will be involved in something and meet others that share that same interest. It will be a whole new group of people you wouldn’t otherwise have met. You may still have the same group of friends at school or in your neighborhood, but you will be busy learning something new and won’t have the need to hang around all the time with the crowd you now have. Learning something new is a great way to build confidence, and will help you in the future to stand up for what you believe is right.

Here are some of the things I did to meet new people. These particular things might not be of interest to you, but I am going to list them because they might make you think of something related that you would like.

Take a photography class. You will get assignments each week which will get you out meeting new people. I would go to a park and practice taking pictures of people doing things; kids playing basketball, people’s dogs, people launching a boat in the water etc. I would approach the people and tell them I was in a photography class, and ask if they minded me taking pictures of what they were doing. Everyone said they didn’t mind, and it was a fun way to meet people. I found when I have a camera, even if I am alone, I don’t feel alone. It gives me an excuse to go places and do things I might not have otherwise done.

Dog agility training. I don’t know if you already have a dog, you might not and that might be out of the question, but maybe you can borrow someone’s dog. The local shelter here looks for people who will help to socialize dogs and need people who can come and take a dog out for a day. I took my dog to learn to run an agility course. The other people in the class were all ages, and a lot of fun. I had to spend quite a bit of time working with my dog, and she never was very good, but I am really glad I did it.

Volunteer at a place that interests you. My sister in law loves going to plays, so she volunteers at a local theater as an usher. She works several times a month and gets to see all the plays for free. Another friend loves the zoo, she volunteers there, and now goes with groups of people who bring animals to places like old folks homes and educates people about the animals.

Where I walk my dog, there is a radio controlled airplane runway. Every time I go out I see people of all ages flying those planes. They are really good at it, and it looks like they have a lot of fun doing it. Same with radio controlled boats. There is a large pond near my house and I often see kids out there having races with their boats. Some of the kids said they build their own boats and sell them to others to make money to buy more boats.

If you like to sing or act, there are usually places that put on plays or choruses that travel around. I had no desire to be on stage, but I did volunteer to help put on a community play. I did the make-up for the actors, but there were others there who helped build the sets, did the lighting, sound etc. That could be a way to learn a new skill as well as meet people and have some fun.

So a start might be to think about what you would like to be doing in five years. What skills and abilities would you like to have? What people would you like to be spending time with? What things on your list of interests would you like to be involved in? What can you do now to work towards being that guy you would like to be in five years?

Use the bad incident that happened today as a turning point start working on being the START you want to be in the future. The making new friends part will come easy once you start doing some new things.

I would like to suggest that this:

… is all the justification I need to tell START that he is doing exactly the right thing.

Why do I say this? Well… look. Not only has HE learned something, but his FRIENDS have learned something from his actions.

START stood up at the right time and did the right thing, and as a result TWO people have become better human beings… if even only by a little bit.

Now those two friends will tell two friends…
…and so on…
…and so on…
I say again, keep up the good work START.

Don’t get better friends. Make those around you better friends.

When I first saw this thread title I said aloud, “Finally!” Just came in to say, Grits and Hard Toast has some really good advice. Become an enthusiast, and you’ll meet people who are more like you.

I read everything and I appreciate all the suggestions so let me tell you about a few options I have looked into…

I could join these clubs/sports…My City Community Basketball, a video gamers club, Poetry Club, Graffiti Art Class at Church and the list goes on
or I could do like my dad wants me to and move to his neighborhood. I am leaning towards the poetry club because it is Hip Hop influneced poetry, and the graffiti class. If I move in with my Dad then I will have to find other stuff to get into. Anyway none of my close group of friends are currently involved in any of these activities so I would have to make new friends and hopefully ones that don’t like squirting piss on gay guys.
All that has no point really, I just figured I would tell you what I was up to since you took the time to reply to my thread. :slight_smile:

Hey START- you don’t know me or have much reason to care, but I wanted to stop in here to say I’m impressed by you. I’ve been lurking since before the time you joined, and I’ve always noticed your threads. And while you do seem to play the “stupid teenager getting in trouble” role on the boards, your degree of self-awareness and willingness to hear criticism and accept it has been startling. Combined with the way you handled the gay-bashing incident and comments like how you’re trying to stay away from pot, I am impressed.

Just thought I’d say that. I have zip advice to give you. I am the essential prototype of the “honor roll type kid” that you said in your OP always bored you, and I am also a hermit at heart. For the last year I’ve been making an incredible effort to be social, but I still find groups of people larger than 4 to be about as pleasant as an unesthetized root canal.

I have a few things to add to the fray, though.

GAH! damn submit button.

  1. Go with your gut about the two guys. Your gut while you’re sitting calmly in front of the computer, not your gut when you’re bored on Friday night, that is. But your gut nonetheless. We don’t know them.

  2. If you aren’t impressed by the people in your church youth group, then don’t feel obligated to go because that’s what “good kids” do. I’m unconvinced that the proportion of “good kids” is any higher in church youth groups than in the general population. By all means keep your paster around though, he seems like a good guy, if a little clueless about your culture.

  3. You mentioned that the guys you hang out with are C- D+ types, and that worries me, but this shouldn’t be a “work hard in school! It’s important!” lecture, you don’t need that. Instead, I’ll just say that I’ve worked a lot of tutoring jobs, and the line between people with their shit together who just need a little help studying for the test and total jerk-offs who want me to wave my wand and make them pass tends to be this- There IS a connection between stuff in school and stuff in the real world. You can be actually INTERESTED in stuff that is also involved in school. It’s allowed. Your very presence on the Dope says good things about your potential for intellectual curiosity, so be careful not to turn your brain off because it’s just school. All those hobbies and interests people are telling you to cultivate? Good books or chemistry or WWII military strategy or whatever can be part of that. There’s gotta be something academic that you just think is cool and worth learning about just to learn about it.

Anyway, you rock, START!