waves to you I could go on and on as to why I loathe Sylar but I suspect it would just annoy you. Don’t really blame you - who wants to hear someone slagging off a character they like, after all? It’s no big deal to me as long as he stays out of storylines that I actually care about.
Nathan has always been my favourite character but this is totally fair. Whenever he’s emotionally moved by anything, he just charges off and does all manner of boneheaded stuff. Somewhat creepily, I always think Angela seems well aware of this and seems to manage this ongoing flaw by keeping all his family (apart from her) as far away from him as possible, presumbaly seeing them as potential sources of dangerous emotional input that will only distract him. To this end, in her time, she has told Peter that Nathan doesn’t think he’s all that and he’d do well to keep away from him, told Nathan his daughter died in a fire and told his wife that he’s insane.
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One thing about the Heroes guys: Think things through? No one’s ability. No contingency planning, no ‘what do we do if the drugs wear off?’ plan B. They need a Risk Management hero /QUOTE]
Hee! This is why Angela (and Bennet) who would serve this exact role if only the other characters would LET them always look so pained. She really doesn’t need her mystical “I knew that was going to happen” power when dealing with these people. People rarely listen to her, poor Cassandra that she is. Incidentally, I LOVED her beyond reason this week in that scene in which she took Danko to pieces in the restaurant. Cristine Rose is beyond awesome.
Oh I couldn’t love this silly show any more than I do
So, does this mean that Sylar has in fact (some flavour of) Peter’s power, and acquired his figuring-stuff-out thing that compels him to open up people’s brains to see how they work from his dad?
Up to now, my personal explanation was that Sylar’s only got the figuring out, but doesn’t necessarily need to open skulls to learn a power, he can also do so by observing its effects, like he did with Elle-lectricity, but it generally takes a while and is more difficult (I liked this explanation more than some hand waving about how it’s all tied to people’s emotions and stuff); but I think I could buy this retcon if it’s the intended explanation.
Call it hand-waving if you must, but the empathic method was the one that Arthur claimed for Sylar (of course he may have been lying, but it did seem to work when Sylar tried it) and it was also how Peter learned to access his various abilities in the first season.
I do believe that the biggest thing that Sylar gained from dear old Dad was his Hunger. I think that the TK and the ability to figure things out might also be inborn, since those are the only two abilities that survived Sylar’s “power purge” before.
One thing I wondered; if Sylar was able to appropriate the powers by examining some part of the brain, why didn’t he just keep a storage garage somewhere filled with jars of brains labeled according to powers? “Let’s see, they mind-wiped me so I lost my abilities, so let’s refill starting with…flight!” In the first season when people’s brains were actually missing, that’s what I thought was happening; I would think that even now, since he’s already gone through the loss of powers once, Sylar would think to maybe keep some super-brains handy in case he needs to recharge.
Now that you mention it… I think that’s most all of them.
Hey, in S1, Angela’s got Nathan convinced he should just let NY burn and then he will be pres etc etc.- he’s there when Angela tries the same sort of manipulation on Claire. She hugs Nathan (Red Alert!)- and jumps out the window. Angela’s immediately in ’ oh shit, stop him from getting noble too!" mode. But that window leap probably inspired Nathan to save Peter
“Danko, you are …my…minion!” She was this close to making him go fetch something
Observation/study may not be enough. He adopted Elle’s ability after it being used on him for an extended period of time.
I think The Hunger is (should be) just a really hazardous neurosis.
I like that they haven’t over-creeped him. No jar brains, no keeping kill trophies. When he abducted Mohinder, Molly and Maya they could have written him as the new creepy standard and had him exhibit some lascivious pedo behaviour towards Molly. They didn’t- he’s just ‘stay outa my way, brat’ with her.
So what’s next for Gabriel? He’s going to ramp up. After bleating about how getting the abilities was its own purpose, and you always need an end goal etc, and his dad’s inspiration to really use the abilities to see how far you can affect the world- we’re on the way to President Sylar
What are we supposed to think about the baby? Matt fathered a kid within the past eighteen months, or somehow turned into a baby? The former, right? The kid’s Matt Jr., not that they’re ripping off kids’ movies now. Right?
How was Nathan’s flying out the window related to Claire’s get out of mutant containment free pass being revoked? Does this mean the Hunter is un-fired or that her adoptive Dad decided to bring her in??
Is Nathan growing his hair out into the Vanilla Ice style, or what?
I assumed her pass was revoked for helping Puppet Man - my knocking the other agent down the stairs. Doesn’t explain how Nathan knew she was in trouble, unless he figured she would be after he got caught flying.
I could be wrong about this, but I know Heroes rehired Bryan Fuller, a writer/producer from season 1, a couple months ago. I believe this is the first episode that he contributed too.
We got some of what I liked a lot about season 1 with the Bennett’s-how having these abilities screws with your life. Claire’s call to her dad wasn’t about moving the plot, it was about the characters coping with life. And the final shot- redemption and meaning through non-romantic love. Nathan goes from hunter to hunted, and the first thing he does is saves his daughter. Atta boy!
I think this volume is as good as S1 was this far in.
Just wanted to register my guess for the identity of Rebel, so that I can crow about being right later.
[spoiler]Hana Gittelman, aka Wireless. She’s an Israeli who showed up for a few seconds in a couple of episodes of season 1 dealing with Nuclear Ted, if you don’t remember her. Her ability was to access Wi-Fi and SMS systems with her mind. She could send and receive text messages (even if they weren’t addressed to her, of course) and hack computers just by thinking at them. We last saw her in the online graphic novel, dying in space while trying to take control of Primatech’s new satellite mutant-tracker. It was implied that her mind might have survived inside the global computer network.
She could easily do all the things we’ve seen Rebel do, and there’s no way she’d ever get caught doing it. She’s also the only character to ever go by a superhero codename in the series, so taking a second one fits.[/spoiler]
Not to rain too much on your parade, but your guess is one of the top two candidates along with Micah already. Wouldn’t surprise me if either one was rebel.
I’m not sure about this, simply because you’d have to have followed to comics to know anything about her (beyond her all-of-1-minute of screentime in S1) – nevermind that she’s a non-corporeal entity, and how that happened – and the writers so far haven’t made the comics required reading to follow the TV show. And in terms of reaching the broadest audience possible, and high ratings and happy advertisers, it’s a really bad idea to do that. Some people won’t read the comics, and those people are going to get confused / irritated that they can’t follow a few key plot / character points.
I’m a bit confused regarding Nathan. I didn’t think he had any idea that Mom was taking it upon herself to control things from behind the scenes via Noah. Yet all his buddy-buddy stuff with Noah behind Danko’s back, and especially his apparent offer to help Tracy, seems to muddy things a bit. Has he switched sides yet? (Okay, he probably has now since he blew his cover, but I’m wondering if he was coming around to the idea that internment camps are actually not so hot before then.) And how much does he know?
Also, spooky that apparently Rebel had some idea what Nathan was going to say to her, before he said it. Unless Rebel’s been chatting with Nathan too (but I agree that wouldn’t make sense, since up to this point at least, Rebel and Nathan have been working opposite sides).
And Angela pwns Danko. So awesome. Her smug smile at the end was just so delicious.
One other thing I was wondering; when Angela brings up the massacre that Danko mysteriously survived, was she hinting that maybe he has a power as well, or simply implying that he was the one doing the killing? Or both?
I didn’t take it to mean that she thought he had an ability – he’s so paranoid and hard-ass about rounding 'em up and killing them, I have a hard time believing that we wouldn’t see any kind of internal conflict if he was one of them. And we haven’t. He hates the supers, but he seems to like himself just fine.
I think the massacre was more a reflection of his attitude towards other people, innocents, and “military expediency.” He’s an ends-justify-the-means kind of guy.
Yeah, but why would bringing that up make him frown and retreat? I suppose if the story he gave was that he miraculously survived some assault and Angela had proof that he was the one who did it, that might be some leverage, but she didn’t seem to indicate that so much…just the mention of the massacre and his survival made him turn tail and run. There’s got to be something more he’s hiding…or maybe it is enough that she could expose him as a more…mundane killer, I guess.
I took it as her implying that she knew that his survival of a massacre of hundreds of civilians wasn’t just a miracle – i.e. that he probably arranged to have the civvies killed. It’s possible that his immediate commanding officer(s) buried whatever report he had to file, but having this report show up on the desk of someone higher up the chain of command would be pretty damning.
Basically I thought she meant that she could expose him as a war criminal. She did specifically mention that the people killed were civilians, that there were a lot of them, and that he was the only survivor. Danko was taking orders directly from the President – if the Prez found out about this, it probably wouldn’t go over well, even if military brass were happy to sweep it under the carpet.
I’m sure it has something to do with an ability, only because everyone on this show is introduced with a connection to an ability, either first or second hand. Someone else with ability saves/spares him, scares the living shit out of him; he has an ability, kills everyone and/or saves himself, scares the living shit out of himself doing it. I don’t see him having an ability and not making good use of it though.
