Nope, they both only began having their powers after their blackouts. You can revisit their conversation in Part 3 on the nbc site (Oops! | Page Not Found | NBC). The radioactive guy’s story starts at 6:50, and Matt says how it happened to him starting at about 5:33.
I have a question. In the last episode, wasn’t there a fade out/in between the markings on the radioactive guy’s neck and the marks on Matt’s neck that showed them being over the same shoulder as each other’s? In the interrogation room in this episode, when they each showed their marks, radioactive guy’s was over his left shoulder, which is where I recall it being, but Matt’s seems to have moved to his right side. Does anyone still have that episode taped or tivoed who can check?
Even later to the party this week, but everyone’s covered most of the points I thought of.
Only thing I’m wondering is, Hubby is convinced that the photo on the back of the book in last night’s episode is different from the photo on the back of the same book in New York (Mohinder and maybe Peter had it?). Hubby says that the New York photo showed the author in a turban. Can anyone confirm?
But that’s wrong. In the first tele-cop episode, he could read minds before he was abducted. The first mind he read was the little girl’s at the Sylar crime scene. He mentioned Sylar, he was arrested because they thoguht that was him, he proved to the FBI chick he could read minds, so they let him go. He was then out at a bar getting a drink and just having fun reading people’s minds when he got to The Haitian and blacked out.
This has been established as true, but as to whether or not it’s important, we don’t know yet. The very first time we saw the book, it had Papa Suresh (the guy from the flashbacks) on the back cover. The second time, it was a dude with a turban, and now this time it’s back to the “real” Papa Suresh. Some people think it has to do with Hiro going back and messing up the timeline somehow, or maybe it was just a prop department mistake (perhaps that was the original actor hired to play Daddy, but he left, and they had to get the other guy, but already made a prop book and forgot to remove it from the prop closet, or something.)
Hmm, that’s right. Well, either they completely forgot the sequence of events as they’d actually played out in previous episodes, or there was some prior blackout period that preceded him hearing voices that hasn’t been shown yet, because in this episode, he clearly described how his voice-hearing started after his 2-day blackout.
I’m guessing that EvilDad and the MindMute have made several visits to Radioactive Man and the ThoughtCop – mostly because during the drunken escapade we saw EvilDad said the ThoughtCop was coming along faster than expected.
Random Hiro Speculation: This was the first time he’s jumped into the past (going to the future and back isn’t the same, neither is coming back to the past from the future where he has a sword and more control). Perhaps something screwed up… Or the waitress is a ditz and he doesn’t know what’s going on.
No, he clearly described being unable to stop the mind reading after the abduction. The same thing that Tim described. There was no statement about not being able to do things, it was about being unable to control those abilities.
Their powers started running out of control after Evil Dad’s abductions. We saw this for Telepathic Cop a few weeks ago when he heard a jumble of voices in the convenience store.
Here’s a question that’s about to make my head explode: Hiro goes back in time to save the waitress and then a few minutes later we see the photograph of her birthday that Hiro is now a part of, which apparently means he went further back in time that he thought he would but presumably saved her life…but if he did save her life then why is his friend still sitting in the cafe waiting for him? And why are the police and investigators still milling around looking for clues? If Hiro changed the past, wouldn’t that automatically alter the present? Meaning all the investigators would suddenly disappear because the waitress was not killed? Or are they now there investigating an attempted murder?
Ow, my brain. Does this make any sense to anyone else. I’m confusing myself. :eek:
No, I don’t think that’s what their conversation represented, at all. However, neither was my original response to the question, as asked. After rewatching the video and transcribing the relevant scenes, it’s obvious that these guys think the appearance of their power has something to do with their encounter with the Haitian. Couple that with some sloppy writing and you have some very confusing dialog. Here’s the transcript. . .
“Start from the beginning.” Clearly Matt means the actual beginning of when Ted first started experiencing his bizarre power, not when it went out of control. And Ted’s experience seems to reflect that he only noticed his ability to kill things after he regained consciousness.
Again, clearly placing the sequence of events as, 1. Haitian encounter, 2. Weird powers start happening.
“The same thing happened to me,” only, it didn’t. We know this because they actually showed us Matt having mind-reading power prior to his encounter with the Haitian.
I’m attributing this whole thing to sloppy writing. Why would Matt think what happened to him followed when he blacked out after seeing the Haitian, when that didn’t happen until after he heard the little girl’s voice under the stairs at the crime scene? It simply doesn’t make any sense.
I’m slightly fanwanking Matt’s speech to mean that while he was occasionally hearing thoughts before he was kidnapped but after he was kidnapped it was a) much more frequent and b) painful to the point of making him pass out.
She did say “you’ll be back, I know it” or something, didn’t she?
Maybe it’s a delayed suggestion.
Nooooo! Then they’d never get answered!
I took that to mean that Hiro was really shy/modest. That he was acting as if he thought she was moving on to the next phrase in the book, not calling him sweet. The word “sweet” or whatever their equivelant was might’ve been in the book she read months ago. I don’t think you can conclusively infer anything from that scene.
I think he may be suggesting alien-head-chick (Eden?) was using her powers of influence to break his psychological addiction. Her line about “his body doesn’t need it anymore, but his mind does” or something similar contradicts that.
They said ‘Sweet’, in English. I didn’t catch it when she said it, but when Hiro repeated it to Ando, he clearly said she called him ‘Suuiito’ - Sweet in heavily accented Japanese.
Given that she explained what she meant to Hiro, it seems she was inserting some random English into the Japanese phrase, without actually knowing if Hiro would know what it meant - ie, it didn’t come out of a phrasebook, and she’s not actually extrapolating anything beyond, perhaps, a simple grasp of Japanese grammar, depending on whether the book she was learning from was the ‘here’s some stock phrases, memorise them’ or ‘here’s some basic grammar and vocabulary, plus some useful phrases’ type.
Japanese borrows a whole lot of words from English, but most deal with things not really native to their culture, or technologically new, so I doubt “sweet” would be among them.
What I meant by equivelant is that people learning new languages often think that idioms transfer over and such - so if you were to say the direct translation of sweet, saying you’re a sweet person, depending on the language, they might think you’re describing how they taste.
According to Enetrtainment Weekly, Dec 4 is the last show before hiatus, and the return is sometime in January.
About the Matt storyline, are we positive that the bar scene where he passed out (and we first saw the Haitian) was chronologically after his hearing the girl? I know it was presented that way, but I’m just curious if it’s possible they messed around with the timeline without explanation.
I tend to doubt it, as the writers don’t seem as into malicious chain-jerking as the Lost writers, but I thought I’d toss it out there.
I just watched the episode and the damned tivo cut the last scene, so it was great to read (immediately) what Ando saw. I’ve now set it to record 1 minute further…grr
Hadn’t Chandra Suresh been embarking on this study for enough years to make it possible that his Sylar was the boy Iyer when the file was first compiled? I, like another poster, find it hard to believe that the similarity in names is a coincidence.
We don’t really know what Sylar’s powers are, but he may be able to bend time much like Hiro. I suggest it because I found the scene at the can opener to be confusing: She was distracted by a popping sound, then turned back to her can-opening. Then another pop, and the top of her head was missing.
But I’m also confused by the cop/Haitian/radiation man timeline. We have only seen Matt since he was able to hear voices, so I’m hoping that we’ll find out he had an earlier blackout to explain the contradiction.
