Heroes 11/19/07 - "Cautionary Tales" (SPOILERS)

Point of order, Hiro did not intend to travel back to feudal Japan. He got TKed by Sylar and reflexively constiported, winding up in feudal Japan where (he believed) his presence altered the timeline.

Do we know for a fact that Kensai wouldn’t have been a hero without Hiro’s intervention? Of course not. But given his at-the-time existence as a discredited drunken sot, it seems likely that he would have remained a discredited drunken sot.

And then there are all the stories written by the swordsmith’s daughter talking about Kensei as a great Japanese man and not as a British man.

That goes great with your username.

Good ep. I hope the next two are as good or better. excited

This is what makes me think that Hiro is/was the legendary samurai that his dad told him stories about when he was a kid.

I think Hiro’s younger self brandishing a sword yelling “I am Takezo Kensei” is a big tipoff that that’s what we’re supposed to think.

You know, I’m still bugged by their choice to have Kensai turn out to be British. Why the heck did they do that?

I know I’m late, but that was a good episode wasn’t it. I’m glad West and Claire’s mother finally turned interesting.

Did anyone else think that the parking lot by the beach looked suspiciously like the parking lot in Date My Mom? Is there anyone else in the world who watches both Date My Mom and Heroes?

When old Hiro and young Hiro simultaneously pushed their glasses up their noses, my heart almost melted.

Claire’s mom has her moments. I think she had to be a lot more interesting than what we usually see to have caught Noah’s eye. He doesn’t seem like a guy to go for the dippy type and she’s more than just a cover for him because we’ve seen tender moments between those two. I think the dippy dog-lover act is just something she does around her kids. There’s layers there we don’t get to see.
A bit of trivia: The actress who plays Claire’s mom is married to the actor who played Nuclear Ted.

The dippy dog-lover thing is in part because of the Swiss-cheesing of her brain by the Haitian.

Oh, Angela Petrelli did her share of that, too. She had zero credibility when she tells someone they have to do something or not do something because it’s the right thing to do. Who knows why she wants to hide Victoria Pratt’s identity, or that it’s to protect Victoria and/or for a morally good reason? I think doing the opposite of what Angela Petrelli tells you to do is a good idea, in general, and Parkman has plenty reason to find Pratt, to SAVE HER LIFE.

I can’t agree that, across the board, using mental powers to get info is evil. If it saves 97% of the world from a plague, is extracting info from a known evil person, and pisses off Angela Petrelli at the same time, then it’s OK by me.

It’s in the superhero handbook? Is that your reason?

He pushed Molly too far, and I agree that was screwed up, but again, he thought he was doing good, and didn’t realize she could get really hurt. As for the thing with his superior, eh, whatever, that guy was being a dick. “Proper maverick cop”? There are an awful lot of rules in your Heroes viewing world that I didn’t know about. Light-side? Dark-side? Isn’t everyone in this show on the grey-side?

Parkman is not a shiny happy superhero. I’m so glad about that.

The cynic in me wants to say “political correctness.”

She also plays off having a stroke quite well. A google search didn’t turn up anything about the actress having a stroke, or related symptoms. Is it just great acting, or does anybody know if the actress really had a stroke?

He’s British, so you know he’s evil. Just listen to that accent.

Bob called her Cassandra. Is that the first mention of her name?

Hey! You all stop that RIGHT NOW.

There is nothing dippy about loving Mr. Muggles. Mr. Muggles is awesome.

Hell, if if Claire had listened to Mr. Muggles trying to point out Stalker West, he could have prevented all that followed. Don’t dis Mr. Muggles.

okay, is that “dis” or “diss”?

Ironically, making people do the opposite of what she wants them to do seems to be her power, too. (at least as applies to her kids. and Matt.)

So what, Mr. Muggles is related to Vincent? They know things?

Diss, I believe.

Not dissing Mr. Muggles, I agree he’s awesome and probably does know things*. But no matter how much I love dogs I would never hold one while I’m eating at the dinner table and let it lick me right on the mouth that = dippy.
*[sub]Hey, did I actually help to originate this meme?[/sub]

Does anyone have the complete quote from Hiro?

Pushed her too far? Huh? All he did was make her eat her cereal, and that was more of a “wait, can I really control minds” sort of thing. The first command he gave her wasn’t a conscious decision, he didn’t know he was doing it. The cereal thing was a confirmation, and in all actuality, is forcing a kid to eat a bo

Heh I thought it was the bit where Hiro the elder replied “Yes you are” :stuck_out_tongue: