I would say not. It’s meant to be viewed along with the show.
I think it was. She needed someone not of her clique who to video tape her. Still it does seem so sad that she’s lost her one true friend. Maybe she can rebuild it now that she knows how to be a nice person.
The more I think about it, Haitian only had to take Zach & Claire’s friendship back two weeks, which is when she recruited him to videotape her new powers. Prior to that, he was just a geek she’d been a bitch to since 6th grade because he’s a geek and she’s popular.
Also, it’s not really cruel to take away the friendship since AED had given orders to take away Claire’s knowledge of the friendship too. If Claire can’t remember telling Zach about her abilities, then she’d be conflicted as to why she’s suddenly best friends with a geek.
Ah! Good point.
or perhaps Sylar figured out how to defeat her power and how to get around what was dampening his power.
Wrong. I did not make it appear to be conjecture. You didn’t read it carefully enough if you think that. Sorry I mistook you for Otto…but it’s not your affair in that case and you should have stayed out of it. He was wrong and you’re doubly wrong for getting involved in the whole argument when it didn’t concern you.
Okay this is my first chance to reply since I watched the episode last night and we’re up to four pages. I’ve been through it but with this many replies its easy to miss something so I’m sorry if I hit someone else’s points.
This episode should be a model for serial television: giving out a pile information that raises dozens of new questions at the same time will keep people talking until the next episode is on. Since there is just so much to talk about I’m breaking down comments by character.
Peter - I think most of us nerds knew the “bomb” was going to be a human being and Peter was my third choice right behind Sylar and Ted the Living Nuclear Reactor so that dream didn’t come as a shock. Peter’s dreams have had a fragment of truth in them before but not been the absolute truth so it may be the case where he’s just seeing things incorrectly, but now we have a great hook for the second half of the season.
I think at this point Future Hiro’s message to Peter doesn’t mean what people were taking it to mean. I do not think “Save the world” means “Stop the explosion of New York” and I’m dubious that “the cheerleader” was Claire. Sylar learned a lot in this episode that may advance his agenda (more on that in a few moments), and it may have been Jackie’s death that set that in motion. Claire was in the dream and the explosion still occurred.
Peter is probably going to survive this. Remember that Future Hiro knows Peter has a scar so large that it made it difficult to identify him without it. Dream-Peter did not have the scar but its possible that if he does explode that he’ll get the scar that way. Another alternative is that by making Sylar aware of Peter that Sylar is now going after him and Dream-Peter was actually Sylar who had taken Peter’s brain (assuming that Peter has succeeded in changing the course of events).
Sylar - I’m not a big fan of the “you’re too dangerous to live” line but it definitely applies in this case. Sylar’s original power gives him an edge that Evil Dad hasn’t considered (and in fairness he doesn’t have the knowledge that us viewers do) and I doubt that the Hatian Mindwiper or any thing that they have to neutralize abilities could stop him for long. Sylar should be able to figure out how they’re blocking him and sidestep it; and that’s assuming that their blocking isn’t targetted at one ability like his telekinesis.
It does look like Sylar has some form of telepathy. He picked up on Claire from Evil Dad during the interigation; remember that Sylar did not know who Claire was when he attacked her. And I think when Peter saw Sylar in his dreams it was Sylar communicating with him gathering information and Peter handed out an awful lot of it. The biggest thing being that Peter has abilities like Sylar’s which will move him up to number one on the brain popping list.
Nikki/Jessica - I’m sticking to my theory that she has MPD rather than Jessica being part of the powers. That makes what is coming for her much more interesting. She needs psychiatric help and any lawyer representing her is going to push for an insanity defense, but when Jessica comes out I think that any doctor examining her is in trouble.
Hiro - The biggest question about Hiro now is will he be hurled back in time with a sword or will he have to fight a dinosaur in New York City. I’ve got my fingers crossed on the later. 
Oh, and why isn’t someone releasing Hiro action figures? You know they’d sell like hotcakes.
Nathan - We know he’ll win by a landslide but is struggling in the polls right now. Unless Peter gets a pile of credit for saving Claire, I suspect he’ll have to reveal his ability to fly in some heroic public act just before the election. He’ll grab some falling baby or something.
Claire - She’s still completely lost in the wilderness, but I suspect that her father’s behavior is going to make her run away.
The Hatian - I’m really curious what his agenda actually is. My money is on that he can block or amplify abilities which has resulted in people leaving custody with their powers running out of control. The question would then be why.
Well, no, we know that according to Future-Hiro that at some point Peter gets a scar and that Future-Hiro is so used to seeing Peter with it that he looks unfamiliar without it. Like how if you’ve only known someone with long hair seeing them with a buzzcut will probably give you a moment’s confusion, or seeing someone after they’ve gained or lost a lot of weight. Nothing about the size of the scar.
What interrogation are you talking about? Sylar attacked Jackie because she was the “hero cheerleader” from the paper. He found out about Claire after backhanding her in the locker room and seeing her heal.
Yes, but he didn’t know her name. She was just a second cheerleader and the one who happened to have powers. Sylar identifies Claire by name and calls her “your daughter” when Evil Dad interrogates him for the first time. It’s pretty clear this is the first contact Evil Dad and Sylar have had during this interrogation so it’s not like they’ve had a chance to mention it before.
It’s at the eleven minute mark by my Tivo, complete with evil music sting when Sylar says “As soon as I get out I’m going to collect one more ability from your daughter.” Sylar was definitely reading Evil Dad’s mind at that point. Sylar had no way to know that Evil Dad and Claire were related. And if I recall the progression of events from last week correctly, Claire’s identity was removed from the board before Sylar could get that (though it’s not absolutely impossible that he could have gotten the name before).
He’s the guy from Six Feet Under, right? He’s a great actor.
Although of course Emmies don’t always go to the most nuanced and convincing master-of-the-craft-of-acting performance. Nor should they, necessarily.
No, he doesn’t.
I’ll transcribe from the -6:21 minutes mark of Part 2 at nbc.com:
AED: “Turns out you’re not so untouchable after all. Oh, no. No, you’ll find your abilities won’t work. Not here. You’re not going anywhere, Gabriel.”
Sylar: “My name is Sylar.”
AED: “Now it is. Wasn’t so long ago that you were Gabriel Gray. An insignificant watchmaker.”
Sylar: “I restore timepieces. You know why I was so good at it?”
AED: “No, why don’t you tell me?”
Sylar: “Because I can see how things work. What makes them…tick. Like you.”
AED: “We’re interested in how things work as well. Everyone else we’ve…met…has had only one ability - you’ve taken on several…”
Sylar: “I guess that’s what makes me special.”
AED: “It’s important to you, isn’t it? Being special?”
Sylar: “It’s important to everyone.”
AED: “I think you’re insane. I think the infusion of so many alterations to your DNA has corrupted your mind. All this power is degrading you.”
Sylar: “And yet here I am alive and well and as soon as I get out I’m going to collect one more ability from your daughter. Sweet…innocent…”
AED: “That’s enough!”
Sylar: “…ripe…indestructible…”
AED: “I said, that’s enough, Gabriel.”
Sylar: ::Storms glass:: “MY NAME IS SYLAR!!”
AED: ::smiles, walks away, turns out lights::
So Sylar didn’t mention her by the name Claire in that scene.
I read it carefully. It wasn’t that difficult. I was just as involved as anyone else who read the post and I commented on it. Just like everyone else does in every thread. If you want to keep it private you should try email. If spoiler boxes weren’t over used as much as they are then there wouldn’t have been a problem with your post. Most of the boxes in this thread don’t contain actual spoilers. As it was I couldn’t tell if you were just guessing. I couldn’t tell before I opened the box and I still couldn’t tell after. If you are citing something then I think you should cite it. You disagree. I’m not going to lose any sleep over it and I’m not going to change your mind. Feel free to comment more but I don’t see any reason to continue the hijack.
I’ve heard good things but I didn’t catch it. I’ll probably wait for the DVD so I can see the whole season.
I agree with those who say the dream must be largely symbolic. He’s seeing everyone who is important to him or is destined to become important to him. But Claire in her cheerleader outfit and Matt in his Telepacop uniform? Why would all those people be there in NY at the same time and dressed as they are. I’m not even convinced Peter is the one who explodes. For all we know, he’s going Phoenix and he’ll be the only one who can stop the real bomb.
I’m a little confused about the sequence of events around this. AED meets Mohinder’s dad then sends Eden to NY to get Claire’s name off the list. Eden moves in next door while Sylar is developing his abilities. But did she ever take Claire’s name off the list?
I’ve been assuming thus far Sylar has been hunting super-types based off the list of names he got from Mohinder Dad, so I assume that’s why he went after Claire. If he was looking for someone named Claire, then he shouldn’t have gone after Jackie just because he saw a newspaper clipping that said “hero.”
But, if he really didn’t know about Claire beforehand and it was just coincidence she was there, then it does seem Sylar has figured out quite a bit on his own. He knows her power and that Mr. Bennett is her dad. He almost said Claire’s name before AED cut him off. How did he get that info?
The thing about the dinosaur is Hiro doesn’t really have to fight anything if he sees it coming and has time to freeze it. I almost see the dinosaur as a psychic attack of some kind he’ll have to deal with. The dinosaur represents a fear he has about his power.
But that would mean the greater public learns about super heroes. Do you think that’s where the show is going?
Me too. It appears he can dampen powers all around him, yet he let Nathan “up, up, and away!” Why’d he do that?
I don’t know if I still have last weeks on my DVR but from memory I think that Eden was too late to go back and get Claire’s name off the list. Sylar already had access to it. Wasn’t she as surprised as Mohinder when they found the room with all the information?
One thing I have not mentioned is one of the biggest flaws I have seen in the show so far. I know I am nitpicking, after all it’s a comicbook show. You can’t expect the science to be perfect. I’m having a hard time suspending my disbelief about Papa’s research. Ok I can make my self believe that somehow he is able to track down a certain portion of DNA in certain people. I can see that he might know certain people have the potential for superpowers. How did he know how those powers would manifest themselves? How did he know CSI-guy had telekenetic powers?
Perhaps the Haitian can only dampen powers connected to the mind (telepathy, telekenetics, etc). That would explain why Nathan’s ability to fly remained unaffected.
Why* did *they keep turning off the lights? After Syklar’s meal was delivered, they did the same thing. My memory ain’t what it should be, but it seems like they had about three scenes where someone left the room and turned off the lights, leaving Sylar in the dark. Seems like it must have been important if they showed it to us again and again.
Is that part of the power-dampening? Like he gets his energy from some sort of photosynthesis?
I think he just did it to show dominance/ be a pain in the ass.
Yeah, I don’t think there’s a whole lot of significance to the turning-off lights thing. Just to make the prisoner as uncomfortable as possible would be my guess.
In the scenes with Gabriel/Sylar he indicated that he didn’t know how these mutations would manifest. Sylar was “patient zero” and he seemed astounded by what Sylar was capable of.