Heroes 12/4: "Fallout"

But Papa’s notes indicated that whatsisface(Sylar’s first victim) would be telekinetic.

Personally, I find prediction of abilities the most plausible bit of the research.

So Charlie was in fact killed by Sylar in the kitchen that very day, or at least within two days (per Mohinder) of Hiro and Ando walking out discussing the if/then statement.

That’s too bad, because that means a good portion of the writing/editing is just abysmanlly sloppy. How is the diner able to function when their kitchen/storeroom, if not the whole building, should be yellow-taped off? If for some reason, CSU has finished, why are there so many customers, when people tend to stay away from places where bizarre deaths have occurred, and there surely have been two days of local news saturation on the death? Was Charlie’s brain aneurysm part of whatever gave her powers, or did the writers just want her to have something deadly to give Hiro something to despair over.

Given that the show gave us a very clever look at why Nathan is not quick to embrace his power of flight (it kept him from rescuing his wife), I thought the writers would do a better job, but now I just don’t know.

There’s a raft of stuff that I thought might be subtle clues, but may just be sloppy writing such as:

Peter completed the painting of Sylar standing over the dead cheerleader with a comment that he created some predictive etchings some time after meeting Isaac previously. So his mimicked powers last awhile. How long? Or was that just sloppy writing?

Nathan was able to fly away from AED with Haitian standing right there. Was this part of Haitian’s rebellion or just sloppy writing?

Why is everyone seemingly so blah about the fact that a cheerleader was murdered on school property? Where are scenes with grief counselors, or even students looking shaken? The Haitian at work, erasing the minds of the whole school commuity, or just sloppy writing?

The show does so many things so well (e.g., keeping AED AE so effectively for so long) that I’d like to give them more credit, but the seams are showing. I think the climax of all of this is not going to be particularly satisfying for a show that started off with such promise.

…and if Hiro and Ando are walking out of the diner around the same time that Mohinder is making frantic calls to authorities about Charlie’s death two days earlier, how the hell long was Ando kicking around that diner?

If it’s a 24 hour diner, and they have room, Ando causes no trouble, keeps buying food, and doesn’t smell too bad, it’s plausible they would let him stay. Especially since all the staff seem like stereotypical nice small town folk.

“I must wait for Hiro.”

“Oh, y’all know Hiro? Ya kin stay then.”

Yeah, but two days? Not that they wouldn’t let him, but what the hell did he do all that time?

He waited for Hiro. What else would he do?

As for your “sloppy writing” questions, some of them may be set-ups for upcoming story business (Nathan’s flying off in front of the Haitian, Peter’s retention of powers) and some of them don’t matter to me (I’d rather not waste time on scenes of high schoolers getting grief counseling; Zack’s line about the text messages and rumors was sufficient).

“Hey, American baby! My friend can bend time and space.”

“Wanna see my samurai sword?”

“Wanna see my rising sun?”

“Ah, this paper has su do ku.”

After 18 hours, max, I’d try to find some way to be a little more pro-active.

You go right ahead and have them not matter to you. I myself, if my belief is to continue in it’s suspended state, am looking for a little more attention to detail.

Or even just leave a note with the counter staff about which nearby motel he was catching 40 winks in.

Like what? Star time travelling himself? He has no idea where, or even WHEN Hiro is. What do you think he could do except wait for him?

45 minutes is short enough as it is. I don’t think there’d be a point in giving us scenes with kids getting grief counseling. It doesn’t have any relevance to the storyline.

The cops eat there. You think they want their waffle supply cut off for too long? “Okay, we’re done here. Fire up those grills.”

I’d eat there just out of curiosity & nosiness.

The brain aneurysm was to help Hiro understand going back and changing things doesn’t always work.

The writers don’t want us to understand Peter’s powers because Peter himself doesn’t know but it appears his understanding, control and/or lack of control is going to be a big plot point. I wish I knew how his powers worked too. That’s why we’re all here speculating.

Again with the sloppy writing accusation when we’ve now been shown Haitian has his own agenda. Let’s wait a bit before we demand all the answers.

They spend too much time on Niki as it is, I really don’t need to know how the students feel. Zach told us they’re talking about it.

Wow. I figured if he were there long enough he probably did grab a few winks at a local hotel but I didn’t really need to see that anymore than I need to see exactly how many times he peed from all that coffee.

He made it clear to Peter he was going to stay and wait for his buddy Hiro and that’s bloody well what he was going to do. Saving the world is the mission for Hiro and Ando. Alone, Ando is nobody.

Although, I do hope Ando gets to do something heroic eventually.

It’s not so mu ch that I want to see grief counselors as much as I don’t want to see everyone acting like it’s just another day. If someone had died at the homecoming the school I teach at just had, everyone would be completely freaked out.

I thought of that but papa-Suresh made a point of telling us the powers are centered in the mind, and it’s the mind which Sylar studies to gain powers. If powers were only DNA based Sylar could just chop off fingers and suck on those.

Speaking of that, when AED said, “I think the infusion of so many alterations to your DNA has corrupted your mind,” didn’t it seem like they worded that deliberately to keep us guessing about whether Sylar is actually eating the brains?

But perhaps they’re all located in different parts of the mind, and the Haitian is only able to affect one particular part…?

I got nothing. I suppose we’ll find out soon enough. :slight_smile:

For all we know, both AED and the Haitian wanted Nathan to escape for whatever reason. Maybe they’d already done whatever nasty business they had to do before he flew off. Now they’ve got the goods on a guy who can both fly and may soon be able to propose appropriations bills!

Has anyone checked Nathan’s neck for an equal sign?

Really we don’t know for sure what exactly the Hatian’s powers are and how they’re restricted. This is true for pretty much every character we’ve seen. We know Peter can copy powers but we don’t know things like: What happens when he copies two at the same time (was the sickness in this episode a result of that)? Is it distance or time that causes them to go away? Is it a sharp cut off or a gradual fade when the copied powers go away? Does the person he’s copying make a difference in this?

With the Hatian we know that he sets up some kind of mental static that prevents telepathy in the area (and it looks like he does it without trying unless he’s paid to follow Evil Dad around and constantly broadcast mental static just in case). We know that this static disrupted Sylar’s telekinetic abilities long enough for Eden to lock him down. We know that the static can be pushed through with effort. We don’t know if this mental static only effects certain types of powers or if he has to key in on someone. He might not be able to do something about a reflexive action like flying or someone with superstrength throwing a punch. We just don’t know enough about him yet.

It’s okay for this stuff to be vague now. Both the characters and the viewers are learning these things as events progress. As long as the answers when they come don’t conflict with what was seen before or what they do from that point on I’m not going to complain.

And on that note, it occurred to me that what I took as psychic abilities on Sylar’s part could just be his own ability to see how things fit together. That could have let him identify the connections between Evil Dad and Claire as well work out the things he knows later on during the confrontation with Eden. I still like the psychic ability theory because that would mean Sylar got into Peter’s head and pumped him for information, but it’s a case where there is another reasonable explanation given the information we have.

True. I remember Nathan saying something like “I’ve seen your faces, I’ll hunt you down and kill you.” I guess that’s off his to-do list now, although it would have been cool if Nathan had bumped into AED at the police station.

I wonder if AED is going to step in and try to help Peter and then he and Nathan will have to make nice.

They don’t matter to me, either. I’d rather they concentrate on the story.

I was thinking last night about Peter’s future scar. I know it’s complete conjecture and we probably won’t see it for quite some time, but I want to go on the record now as saying that Peter’s scar will be on his forehead, a memento from when Sylar tries to eat his brain.

That’s all. :slight_smile: