[QUOTE=levdrakon]
Tengu you’re right about the voiceovers though. They lie. This episode they specifically said Claire would meet her daddy.
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Actually, I thought the promos said something more like, “Last week Claire found her mom; wait until she (or possibly “you”?) meet(s) Daddy!” If my recollection is more accurate then they didn’t say she would meet her daddy, it only said, “wait until she meets daddy” and therefore no lies were told. Innocent!
[QUOTE=scotandrsn]
Sigh
No, it’s my memory that’s faulty. Time to eat crow.
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Man, I was about to come in here and apologize for being snarky earlier. Screw that though, you deserved the snark!
I disagree with TWoP’s assessment of that scene. I think that the Haitian simply caught Sylar as he fell after Eden ordered him to go to sleep.
[QUOTE=Cuckoorex]
Actually, I thought the promos said something more like, “Last week Claire found her mom; wait until she (or possibly “you”?) meet(s) Daddy!”
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The exact line (which I posted in last week’s thread) was “Now you’ve met Claire’s mommy, wait 'til you meet daddy.”
[QUOTE=Cuckoorex]
Actually, I thought the promos said something more like, “Last week Claire found her mom; wait until she (or possibly “you”?) meet(s) Daddy!” If my recollection is more accurate then they didn’t say she would meet her daddy, it only said, “wait until she meets daddy” and therefore no lies were told. Innocent!
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They said “wait until you meet daddy” in the promos. At the beginning of the show in voiceover they said “tonight she meets daddy.” Lies, lies, lies.
It was also kinda weird how at the beginning of the ep they showed us AED trapped in Sylar’s cell screaming which hadn’t happened yet, and at the end of last week’s ep we were shown Claire’s mom calling Nathan when that didn’t happen until the end of this week’s ep.
Make’s it hard to keep track of what’s happening when, but we are on a countdown towards the destruction of NY.
scotandrsn, Haitian’s got two powers. One cancels out people’s abilities, the other is the mind wipe. I don’t think he does the mind wipe until they’re finished studying the “patient.” In Sylar’s case, I think once they picked him apart they were probably planning on killing him. AED recommended doing it right away but was overridden by the higher-ups. But I don’t think there was reason to mind-wipe him because I don’t think the plan was ever to return him to the general populace.
[QUOTE=Wile E]
I thought Claude’s mentioning of having his power for 15 years and then Mr. B’s mention of an “old friend” was trying to set us up to think Claude was the daddy. I think they may have been trying to steer us away from the obvious candidate … the candidate!
Best line of the episode: Hiro’s response when Ando says of Hiro’s sister “I think she’s starting to like me.”
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He’s referred to as Claude although he specifically distains being called Claude Rains. 
[QUOTE=Otto]
Man, I was about to come in here and apologize for being snarky earlier. Screw that though, you deserved the snark!
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Fight! Fight! Fight!
[QUOTE=levdrakon]
Yeah, the “hair in your face” comment was funny. Claude’s performance seemed a little over the top, unless it was his intention all along to use reverse psychology on Peter and he actually wanted him to embrace his empathic touchy-feely side.
Tengu you’re right about the voiceovers though. They lie. This episode they specifically said Claire would meet her daddy.
Dooku, you really liked Sylar’s fake Texas accent? I think Claire’s mom’s accent sounds more authentic.
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The thought the hair joke was in reference to what the spoilers say happens to V’s character at the end of this season. :eek:
[QUOTE=simster]
From this point forward, let this defense be known simply as the “Hatian Defense”…
Similar to pleading the 5th, you can now simply state that you are invoking the “Hatian Defense”.
All in favor?
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Manlaw.
Does Claire’s mom have a ‘Doper Name’ yet? Can I nominate Trailer Flash?
Oh, I forgot to add: the most obvious plot hole.
So, let’s see. You think you’re a ticking bomb, destined to blow up NYC.
So what do you do? Wander around manically in NYC, saying “I NEED TO FIND A WAY TO STOP THIS!”
How about… take a flight out to North Dakota, so that even if you do go nuclear, you’ll only take out some cows.
[QUOTE=SenorBeef]
How about.. take a flight out to North Dakota, so that even if you do go nuclear, you’ll only take out some cows.
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Peter was on his cell phone booking a flight to the Nevada desert when he spotted Doctor Where. So that’s not a plot hole since it’s pretty much what went down.
[QUOTE=levdrakon]
scotandrsn, Haitian’s got two powers. One cancels out people’s abilities, the other is the mind wipe. I don’t think he does the mind wipe until they’re finished studying the “patient.” In Sylar’s case, I think once they picked him apart they were probably planning on killing him. AED recommended doing it right away but was overridden by the higher-ups. But I don’t think there was reason to mind-wipe him because I don’t think the plan was ever to return him to the general populace.
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I think there’s still some debate about whether the Haitain can cancel out abilities or not, because Nathan was still able to fly with him in the vicinity. Wasn’t Matt the only person who experienced an inability to use his powers around the Haitian? (I agree with Otto that it was Eden who subdued Sylar, not the Haitian.) Perhaps the Haitian’s ability isn’t canceling out abilities per se, but rather being a kind of signal jammer when it comes to reading minds, causing Matt to hear only silence when he’s near the Haitian.
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]
I think there’s still some debate about whether the Haitain can cancel out abilities or not, because Nathan was still able to fly with him in the vicinity. Wasn’t Matt the only person who experienced an inability to use his powers around the Haitian? (I agree with Otto that it was Eden who subdued Sylar, not the Haitian.) Perhaps the Haitian’s ability isn’t canceling out abilities per se, but rather being a kind of signal jammer when it comes to reading minds, causing Matt to hear only silence when he’s near the Haitian.
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Haitian subdued Eden and prevented her powers from working inside the paper company. He also subdued the radioactive guy, although we didn’t see that and I’m not sure if his powers had manifested yet. Sylar’s powers also didn’t work within the facility while Haitian was around, but apparently worked when he wasn’t.
I don’t know if Sylar has figured out Haitian is the one who can stop him but for a guy as powerful as he is, he sure rabbited when AED and Haitian showed up at the house, and AED felt confident sending Haitian alone after Sylar. Maybe Sylar is just a coward, and runs whenever two people come after him.
Who knows, you could be right. I have a far-fetched theory about why Haitian let Nathan go. He maybe knew he was Claire’s bio-dad? He won’t mess with Claire either. He knows something AED doesn’t. People in Nathan’s family seem particularly important.
Frankly, I thought that Hot Momma had hit Nathan up for buckage over the years, to keep the ‘scandal’ hidden. Then been paid off and agreed not to talk to him again. Man, Nathan is just having no good news on the scandal perspective these days.
[QUOTE=E-Sabbath]
Frankly, I thought that Hot Momma had hit Nathan up for buckage over the years, to keep the ‘scandal’ hidden. Then been paid off and agreed not to talk to him again. Man, Nathan is just having no good news on the scandal perspective these days.
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And I’m not of the opinion its scandal worthy … Trailer Flash said " I don’t know if you remember me"… not something you would say to someone you’d been blackmailing.
My thought is that Trailer Flash somehow caused the fire, thought baby claire was dead, was on the run from HRG. Nathan most likely thought both were dead (news was planted to make that case) and moved on with his life…
The real question is how/why did HRG adopt claire, and what was the real cause of the incident.
[QUOTE=Otto]
Peter was on his cell phone booking a flight to the Nevada desert when he spotted Doctor Where. So that’s not a plot hole since it’s pretty much what went down.
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Exactly. He is trying the lets try something that doesn’t involve me dying strategy. Can’t say I blame him. He has shown he is willing to sacrifice himself if it becomes necessary.
Boy, how much would it suck to be the Haitian and not have the ability to shut down Sylar? Me, I’d head for a bar and hang out for a couple hours.
“No, sorry, sir, I’m searching all the alleys. No sign of him…”
I have a theory that the Haitian’s powers only affect those powers connected to the mind (like Matt’s mindreading and Eden’s power of suggestion) - but I could be wrong as well. We’ll see. 
I’m having this uncontrollable urge to combine these nicknames and start calling her Hot Flash.
[QUOTE=Otto]
I’m having this uncontrollable urge to combine these nicknames and start calling her Hot Flash.
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So it has been written, so it shall be done.