Heroes 9/22

The funny thing about it is that Katt character in The Greatest American Hero was originally named Hinkley but it was changed after a dude named Hinkley tried to kill Reagan.

Nah, criticism of the episode is why I’d read these threads. Heck, I criticize myself.

Criticism of Heroes not being something other than Heroes really belongs in its own thread. (IMO)

Sometimes these threads read like:

<poster>: Another time-travel MacGuffin! This is so stupid!
<umpteen other posters>: Ummm, there is a time-travel guy, of course we’re getting time-travel MacGuffins.
repeat ad-infinitum

Meanwhile there might be a highly interesting discussion of Mama Petrelli mind-controlling her sons going on that is relevant to the episode.

… okay, I kid. That could never happen. :wink:

Oh boy – mixed emotions here too. I was s-o-o-o happy to have the show back, I was ready to overlook and forgive just about anything, and when it was over, I felt dissatisfied. There was so much going on, and so many changes in the characters that I’ve considered going online to see the shows again, but I don’t think that would help. Someone said the shows were sloppy, and I thought, yes, that was my reaction – it was all over the place. As though the writers decided they had to make up for the last season by throwing in a whole bunch of new plots/subplots, character changes, locations, etc., etc. Oh, and the bit where Hiro’s father leaves him the message about the forumula was the one thing that almost made me laugh. He tells Hiro about it, probably knowing Hiro will want to get to it, then when Hiro does, there’s another message from his father saying (in so many words) ‘I told you not to remove the formula!’ If the formula was safe in the safe, why tell Hiro at all? I’m glad Mohinder got some (he is a hunk, eh?), but the “mad scientist” thing was a bit much. Previous seasons, he’s one of the few rational humans in the show, and he suddenly goes beserk with just the thought of acquiring superhuman powers. Re Lindermann: It was my impression that he healed Nathan; didn’t Nathan, upon seeing Lindermann say something like “so it was you”? I recall that Lindermann healed Nathan’s wheelchair-bound wife. (Whatever happened to her, I wonder.)

Seconded. I tuned in last night, and will likely give it two or three more episodes depending, because I liked this show and want to continue to like this show. Instead I find myself liking it less and less. It’s tremendously flawed, embracing the most predictable traits of comic books and ignoring the most interesting. Hero dies? Not for long. Need to get the plot a’movin? Try Dead Father Ex Machina or the ole meddling time traveler. And let’s not forget to brood people. Nobody wants to see happy faces.

Right now, all I want is for the villains to be more than generic evil. At least Adam had some motivation beyond just being evil. I’m not encouraged that the first thing the frightful four did after escaping prison is to beat and fry two people at a gas station for no apparent reason other than to establish how eeeeevil they are.

I think last season it was shown that his family left him for being an alcoholic. At least i remember him sneaking visits with his kids through a fence.

Do we know that for sure? How does he rearrange his own brain? I didn’t think we ever really saw how Sylar acquired powers. But it’s certainly possible I forgot.

One more cool scene I forgot to mention: Mama Petrelli’s dream, with all the horror stuff, esp. Claire’s head watching her own body get dragged off.

I don’t think Sylar has to rearrage his brain, just learn how others do their thing.

Mama Petrelli’s dream was interesting. I wonder if Sylar appeared behind her because he’s the bad guy leader, or he’s there to save mama.

Whatever happened to Haitian? I can’t remember.

LOL! Good one!

It’s not just you. I was waiting for Sylar to smash through the closet door wearing a repainted Captain Kirk mask.

David Anders (Sark from Alias) was also listed in the credits, but I didn’t see him. WTF?

We had a superpowered humans in the real world show that was excellent in all the ways that “Heroes” is not; it was called “The 4400” and it was cancelled because no one (except me) was watching it. Bah.

I think it’s because he’s working with Mama Petrelli, he appeared behind her just like the Haitian used to.

Now I thought I saw Kristen Bell in with the group that Mama Petrelli was facing off against, so that could mean that Sylar is going to become a(n anti-)hero?
**** to the people who missed the NYC painting ***
The painting in NYC is on the docks just after Mohinder has thrown the mugger away, given that Isaac has been dead for a few months at this point and it looks brand new I’d assume that it wasn’t him that painted it.

With the introduction of Bruce Boxleitner Im hoping that the guest stars are now going to come from B5 as well rather than Star Trek alone.

He was in the dream that Mama Petrelli had.

That’s what I’m thinking.

That’s my feeling as well. I think he has taken the brains in the past because he needed time to study them and he didn’t want to get caught in the act (and also to feed the rumor that he eats the brains). I have a feeling he doesn’t really need to pop the top to learn what he wants, he just thinks he does. He seems able to see that people have abilities before he opens their head.

I have to say, I am enjoying how nuts they’ve gone with the first two eps. I’ll be happy if it all makes sense in the long run but damn! how crazy. They’re not even pretending to be sensible anymore.

Sylar: My mother is dead.
Mama Petrelli: No, Sylar I am your mother!
Sylar: No! That’s not true! That’s impossible!

They may as well have written it like that. I laughed at that revelation. Ridiculous.

Or he’s smart enough to realise that faking a vulnerability can be useful.

Can’t Peter stop time? Or at the very least, couldn’t he just teleport there and back quickly?

I am not so sure he is dead yet.
When the camera panned to the frozen droplets I was expecting them to start melting again and join together to reform him.
Wasn’t he the guy in X-Men who turned into a puddle?
The shot was also very similar to the one near the ending in Terminator-2 where the terminator had been frozen and blown to smithereens.

You know, if they had different time travel McGuffins you might have a point but for three seasons in a row they’ve lead off with the exact same time travel plot line. With infinite possibilities they choose to do the same story over and over again.

With the problems of last season where while it was airing we were told that they realized their problems and were revamping. So I gave things another chance and was disappointed. I’m willing to give it another week or two but I’m on the verge of tuning out permanently.

I’m going to be annoyed if next week the reporter has “mysteriously vanished” rather than “been found reduced to a twenty foot across bloody mess coating a parking garage”. A drain doesn’t get rid of evidence. Especially that much evidence across that much area.

They did revamp. They even gave a shout-out to what they revamped – Hiro swore off going into the past. That is what they felt was the problem. Obviously, they believe that starting out with the flash-forward is successful for them.

Scoundrel Swanswater the guy from X-Men was Bruce Davidson; different guy.