As usual, you are full of shit.
I said that I think waiting to have sex until you are married is silly. I believe in marriage. I am married, you immense twit. Learn how to read a post completely and in context, and stop injecting your own moronic take.
I like marriage, and I liked being a slut before I was married. But, someone else calling me or anyone else a slut in a perjorative fashion needs a reality check, IMHO.
OK, I was gonna respond but this just cracked me up. 
And allow me to interject that I am most assuredly not a whore - I rarely get dinner, let alone an outright cash payment. I’m simply a tramp. 
Esprix
I used to call myself a volunteer prostitute.
Well, it may be silly, but if that’s what a person believes, they have a right to it.
But thank you for clearing up what you said-that made more sense.
BTW, I never said Esprix was a digusting whore-I said he was a wanton harlot. Which is kinda cool, if you ask me.
Crow T. Robot: “ehehe…slutting’s fun!”
I never said anything about “attacks”. I said he was being “judgemental”. Earlier on in this thread, he said, basically, that one person has no right to be judgemental of the decisions of another.
I’m not saying anything about “attacks” or the varying degrees thereof… I’m saying Hastur’s acting like a hypocritical dumbshit.
And you, as usual, need to learn to think before you allow your fingers to touch a keyboard. In fact, you should learn to think before you turn the computer on. It’d enable you to actually defend yourself when you act like a boob.
Your marriage status is irrelevant. In fact, I find it amusing that you seem to think it’s okay to be a hypocrite in this thread just because you’re married.
I’ve not been any sort of a hypocrite, SpooBrainBoDiddly.
You need to go back to the Wizard and beg him for that brain he promised you, Scarecrow. I don’t know what bug is up your ass, or what amazing dyslexia you have that could so contort my words in your feeble little mind, but… you don’t know what the hell you are talking about. But, what’s new?
Sorry that this took so long, I usually don’t post from home and I am just now back at work.
The reason why I gave examples of my unsafe sex was to let you know I wasn’t trying to be ‘holier than thou’. It’s more like ‘We (and most people) are NOT being safe (by my definition) and I think we are fooling ourselves if we take risks and pretend we aren’t’. I felt like I had to say this because PharmBoy (who may be homophobic for all I know, but we can’t be sure) was attacked for basically saying that promiscuity, even if you are using a condom, is dangerous. I personally don’t care if Esprix is promiscuous or not - if this leads to someone getting infected, it’s not entirely his fault, the responsibility would be shared between him and the person who chose to take that chance with him. I just think that when it becomes a knee-jerk reaction to attack people for pointing out the dangers, it’s not a good thing. Yes, PharmBoy said these things in an insensitive manner, but I think it’s being judgemental to say that he’s a homophobic jerk for speaking his mind, when I agree that too much faith is being placed on ‘safe sex’ and not enough people are actually making sacrifices for safety beyond a slight reduction in sensation from wearing a condom.
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Hastur, I’ve been reading your illogical ramblings on this thread, and I can only imagine a red-hot car muffler shoved up my ass would be more painful than reading more. And then you conclude your tripe with these wonderfully incongruous statements judging the decision to remain celibate until marriage, and the in the next damn paragraph, you call Badtz judgmental! You, Hastur, are a hyprocritical, knee-jerk, idiotic waste of flesh. Please do yourself a favor and get over yourself.
All right, let’s take this one step at a time. I guess I’ve just been outrunning your thought processes or something.
In the very first post to this thread - the VERY FIRST (you know what “first” means, don’t you?) - you said:
Along with a bunch of other ranting and raving… basic hot-headed knee-jerk reaction without any thought put into the words whatsoever… that basically said something along the lines of “don’t judge someone else’s choices”. You were responding to Ryan when he made comments about how other people have a right to disagree with someone else’s lifestyle.
I thought (you know what a “thought” is, don’t you?), “How interesting. Apparently, our good friend Hastur, enlightened soul that he is, has developed the ability to rise above such petty things as casting quick and hasty judgements on someone else’s decisions in life. Good for him!”
However, later on in this thread, you said:
I’ll give you a few moments to think about that. No, no, don’t start thinking how you can pretend to ignore the fact that you screwed up with petty insults, just think about that.
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Seems pretty “judgemental” to say such things, doesn’t it?
Think of it this way… suppose I had said:
Wouldn’t that be pretty judgemental?
Why is it okay to be harsh towards heterosexuality but not homosexuality?
It isn’t, Hasty.
Now, maybe you should go to your room and think things over a bit. Hey, get your wife to help you! She’s bound to be more level-headed than you are.
Hell, a carrot is bound to be more level-headed than you are.
Spoo: You are entitled to your opinion, wrong and pathetic as it is.
The big difference is: PharmBoy was personally criticizing someone directly. I was stating my opinion of what I think is right without attributing it to anyone else or expecting them to live to my standards. If you might have notice, Guin asked. She asked, I responded.
You seem to like to focus on someone and relentlessly attack them, especially if you are in the wrong. You are no better than a bully who delights in causing problems and tries to find the weaknesses of others so you can feel superior. You are a sad individual who needs to derive their power from attempting to steal it from another. Grow the fuck up, little person. Your game is obvious and sad.
EVERYBODY:
Before replying to this thread, preview your reply and count to ten before hitting the submit button. I want this thread to calm down a bit. Got that?
Lynn
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Oh, right. You didn’t start it to glorify, you started it to brag. Uh-huh. In just what universe are those two words not synonyms?
The only insinuations that I saw were:
This thread was pointless (you seriously aren’t trying to argue with that, are you?)
The prevelance of AIDS within the homosexual community is largely due to their own carelessness (are you disputing that?)
Any time one criticizes another person’s sex life, one risks being told that one is simply jealous (another point that’s hard to argue)
Well, duh.
Well, if you can’t think of any, then you’re obviously oblivious to them, aren’t you?
Did any of those ellipsis contain your name? No, I didn’t think so.
That’s a blatant lie. Look, you might not agree with the suggestion of not having casual sex, that’s your right, but don’t claim that you aren’t ignoring safe sex advice, because you are. Safe sex is more than just wearing condoms and spitting instead of swallowing, and if you don’t know that, then you’re pretty damned ignorant.
But others have whined on your behalf. Your behavior makes their actions hypocritical.
What are you talking about? I’m not here to give my opinion on sex; I’m here to express disapproval at the intolerance expressed in this thread.
The wording is slightly different, but isn’t the basic meaning the same as Pharm Boy’s post?
I really doubt that ACT UP is made up entirely of people that have no unsafe sex.
evilbeth
No, Esprix claimed to practice safe sex. That doesn’t mean he did.
Then you haven’t been paying close attention to the news.
Well, the name of this forum isn’t the Place To Insult Pharm Boy, therefore the purpose of this thread must not have been to insult Pharm Boy, musn’t it? Your logic is asinine. Is every question in GQ general? Is every debate in GD great? Is every opinion in IMHO humble? They’re names, evilbeth, not absolute, ironclad descriptions.
You must be in a very interesting social group.
Upham
Because one is an act, the other not.
So can a broken leg. That doesn’t make a broken leg a lifestyle.
Well, gee, that’s kind of hard to know without reading the thread. Are you implying that if one thread in a particular forum isn’t looking for approval, none of the others are either?
Hastur:
When have I ever passed judgement on what people do in bed? (And I’m not sure why you are assumming that these acts happened in a bed).
Has the world gone insane? Since when has having sex with four guys in as many hours been safe sex?
Coldfire:
What is ludicrous or homophobic about pointing out that high risk behaviors can lead to transmission of disease?
TwistofFate
Sure there would be. And everyone would have jumped on him with the same fervor they have shown Pharm Boy.
matt_mcl
And just who has said the latter?
Esprix said
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evilbeth said
Why don’t you take your advice? If you have a problem with Pharm Boy’s comments, ignore them.
Splendid advice, Ryan.
Now, where did I put that ignore button?
Esprix
The sexual activities of people must be more important than roasting Pharmboy, damn.
This thread started off pretty good, now its all ethics and opinions… jebus
rolls over well I feel slightly browned off in the BBQ pit.
Oh, come on. If someone tells me that I will increase my risk of cancer if I eat cooked meat, and I eat cooked meat anyway, you can hardly accuse me of “ignoring important advice as to my risk of cancer.”
Jealous?
That would be PharmBoy, yes?
…Moreover, if Esprix has made an educated consideration the small risk inherent in his sexual behaviour and decided to take the risk anyway, he can hardly be accused of “ignoring” anything just because his results differed from yours.
Listening, considering, and coming to a conclusion do not constitute “ignoring”, regardless of whether you disagree or would act differently.
He is saying that there are no consequences for his actions. I think this is what some of the posters are having problems with. He’s not saying ‘I’m having fun and doing what I can to reduce the risks’. I think the attitude that you can avoid all consequences of casual sex simply by wearing a condom is foolish and dangerous.
In general?
Nothing.
When worded as a personal attack at someone who is sharing private details rather than triggering a debate?
A shitload.
See the difference? A lot of it is the way the message was voiced, and the place it was put in. While it may be accurate in general to state that having multiple sexual partners constitutes a greater risk of transmitting STDs and possibly AIDS, it is an insult and an insinuation to assume that Esprix, in this case, does not pay heed to this common knowledge and sleeps with every Tom, Dick, and Harry without being abreast of their sexual history. It’s the implied ignorance, more than anything, that I object to. Moreover, PharmBoy then generalises his remark by applying it to the homosexual community (for lack of a better term) at large.
It’s wrong and insulting on so many accounts, that I find myself amazed at the number of times I’ve been asked to explain myself over it the last two days.
Excuse me? This, from the person who brought the word “pigfucker” to the debate? Excuse me for saying so, Hastur, but in my view your reactions in this thread have been waaaaaay out of proportion to the posts you’ve been responding to. Someone step on a nerve?
I eagerly await your typically calm and rational response.
No, I am most assuredly not saying there are no consequences for my actions. I am saying that I and my partners are comfortable with our level of risk, which, in my learned opinion, is less than one in a million. Frankly, I have more of a chance of being in a car accident than I do contracting an STD the way I have sex - does this mean I oughtn’t drive anymore?
I will again point out that I have not gone into detail about my sexual proclivities, but a lot of people seem to be making assumptions about what I do do. Again, allow me to assure you that the specific sexual activities in which I engage are quite solidly in Column A of Safe Things To Do (Column B being Somewhat Risky and Column C being Downright Dangerous).
Esprix