Hey, Snakes on a Plane!

The BBQ Pit
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[QUOTE=fubbleskag]
tldr = too long, didn’t read

and are you all seriously telling me you didn’t get the joke behind SoaP’s post? jesus christ.
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Neither did I…as with any first-time meeting (poster) with someone in real life, I wouldn’t take too kindly if this new acquaintance started “joking” w.r.t. any relative of mine regardless if they meant it as a joke or not; and I would perceive that new acquaintance as a jerk. Also, said jerk has not apologized in that thread for his jerkish behavior, which would have earned him a LITTLE slack. Just like Mangeout, I don’t see the humor here, I just see a first-time guest tracking mud into someone’s house without any remorse.

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Snakescatlady: Your moniker tells me two different things every time I see it:

  1. You are a lady who likes snakes and a cat (Most Likely)
    -OR-
  2. You are a lady who has a fetish for snake scat. (Least Likely)

I can’t help but noticing this every time I see your moniker. I am trying to resolve this personal issue through counseling. Forgive me. Mentally, I try to visualize a capital “C” in your moniker to help my recovery process…but sometimes…my mind wanders… :smack:

Again, forgive me.
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[QUOTE=Maureen]
Common courtesy is vastly overrated when it comes to speaking your opinion on how much other people’s interests suck. Personally, I could live without ever seeing another thread with the words “World of Warcraft” in the title, but for those people who do enjoy them, rock on.
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Part of the problem is, though, you really shouldn’t post in the pit if you’re expecting common courtesy. I mean, admittedly, you have a point. Everyone should know by this point that Sampiro posts long threads about how stupid his family is, and just ignore them if they don’t want to read them. But part of the Pit is that, if you post in it, you have to risk driveby flames.

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Yes, well, and this is also a point. It is partly due to my frustration that comes out at times like this, being unable to call a green, bridge dwelling silicon based life form a green, bridge dwelling silicon based life form.

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Yanno, Maureen, as a carbon based, basement dwelling, anti-social, and ugly type one might be worried that you’re planning to spread that title to similar critters. :wink:

Snakescatlady, thanks for starting this Pit thread. I know I should have done it when I told SOAP, “You’re a nasty little shit, SOAP. Why don’t you do something about that?” in the thread in question.

Since you have started this thread, I just couldn’t let it go, without taking the time to restate my advice to SOAP:
Snakes on a Plane, you’re a nasty little shit. Why don’t you do something about that?

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[QUOTE=askeptic]
Sure but those threads are not in the pit. I like Sampiro’s family sagas, maybe that makes me a dumb ass I don’t know, but the guy can write well and he tells a good story IMO. BUT I think that IN THE PIT it is completely valid to point out that you think someone is boreing or that they do not have a point or that you think they were overly verbose.

In Sampiro’s case I disagree but I think if he puts them IN THE PIT he must expect some random assholes. AND the random assholes should expect to be called on their shit.

What chaps my ass is all the whiny “If you are not interested, don’t read it” bull shit. This is not GD or GQ, we are not pretending to solve life’s problems. We are killing time and arguing and discussing and expressing our opinions. If we open a thread and find it uninterseting we should be and ARE allowed to express that. If we find a certain poster to be annoying we can either ignore it or we can express our opinion. We can then defend it or not.

Please Please Please stop with the “Don’t like it don’t Read it” Bull shit. This particular forum is for expressing opinions, even the opinion that you think somebody is a trite boring ass, whining about trivialities.

This is not intended to be a defence of devee or SOAP. I demonstrated in Revenants thread, tldr can in fact be posted without getting admonished by the mods.
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I tend to agree with you.If you are going to post your life story in the pit, I would think it inevitable that you will receive some drive -by asshole comments.
I was trying to post my own way of saying “I do not know Sampiro, and I am not interested enough to read the whole post about his mother.” I was trying to post that comment without seeming immoral or being ostracized by the SDMB community. I think people should be able to express that opinion without getting told off by a moderator.Can ask the moderator what was so terrible about Sankesonplane’s post that should require such a response.

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[QUOTE=blinkingblinking]
I was trying to post my own way of saying “I do not know Sampiro, and I am not interested enough to read the whole post about his mother.”
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Why? What end would such a post serve?

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[QUOTE=blinkingblinking]
I tend to agree with you.If you are going to post your life story in the pit, I would think it inevitable that you will receive some drive -by asshole comments.
I was trying to post my own way of saying “I do not know Sampiro, and I am not interested enough to read the whole post about his mother.” I was trying to post that comment without seeming immoral or being ostracized by the SDMB community. I think people should be able to express that opinion without getting told off by a moderator.Can ask the moderator what was so terrible about Sankesonplane’s post that should require such a response.
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It’s kind of the equivalent of going to a party, butting in on a conversation between two (or more) people and saying “I don’t care what you’re talking about, it’s boring.”
If you don’t like it, don’t listen. Go talk to someone else about something else.

And if you can’t be bothered to read a thread on the SDMB, don’t. Nobody is forcing you to read it. Find another one–or start one–and post there.

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[QUOTE=Giraffe]
Well, at least you did read them eventually. :smiley:

Yes, your post was against the rules. We ask that posters report suspected trolls using the “Report This Post” button, but not post their suspicions on the board. No, you’re not in trouble, just don’t do it again.
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I do not get this pit rule. This thread here seems to be about what kind of post was made by Snakesonplane when he said he did not care to read Sampiro’s whole OP. People here are discussing whether it was a joke, attempted joke,a drive by, Snakes on a plane being a complete jerk, or whether it was a 'xxxxx".
I cannot use the word ‘xxxxx’ ?
If we cannot ask or speculate about that possibility, how can this thread be here at all ?
Is this post against the rules ?

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[QUOTE=Miller]
Why? What end would such a post serve?
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I am not sure it would serve any purpose. Does it have to ? Sometimes people just like to express an opinion without any real purpose. Usually I do not in these kind of circumstances, becuase it tends to upset people as it seems to be doing here.
I am just saying that could be what Snakesonplane was doing.

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[QUOTE=blinkingblinking]
I do not get this pit rule. This thread here seems to be about what kind of post was made by Snakesonplane when he said he did not care to read Sampiro’s whole OP. People here are discussing whether it was a joke, attempted joke,a drive by, Snakes on a plane being a complete jerk, or whether it was a 'xxxxx".
I cannot use the word ‘xxxxx’ ?
If we cannot ask or speculate about that possibility, how can this thread be here at all ?
Is this post against the rules ?
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The Powers That Be don’t want people hurling troll accusations around, as it tends to derail a thread very quickly. If you think someone’s being a troll, report the post and the mods will decide.

I’m occassionally frustrated by the rule, but I’m glad the board doesn’t devolve into a “U SUK< TROLL!!!11” fest.

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[QUOTE=blinkingblinking]
I am not sure it would serve any purpose. Does it have to ? Sometimes people just like to express an opinion without any real purpose. Usually I do not in these kind of circumstances, becuase it tends to upset people as it seems to be doing here.
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Yeah, having a purpose would usually be nice before you post something. It doesn’t have to be anything earth-shaking, but no one is exactly sitting on the edge of their seats, wondering what blinkingblinking thinks of their thread. If the sum total of your contribution to a thread is to say that you’re not interested in the thread… well, not posting at all would communicate essentially the same information, and it prevents you from looking like a self-centered jerk.

And again, we’re talking about a thread where a guy’s mom is dying. If you were hanging out at work, and you overhear a co-worker talking about how his mom has cancer, would you walk over and say, “I don’t care about your mom or her tumor?” I’m assuming not, as people who do that sort of thing generally have trouble making it through the day without multiple stab wounds. Pretty much the same standards apply here on the SDMB as they do in real life. The Pit is a bit more relaxed in some regards, but there are still standards. Picking fights with someone whose trying to talk about an ailing relative is one of the few ways to guarantee you a board-wide beatdown, and probably some moderator action on top of that.

Yes, that’s probably what he was doing. And he was an asshole for doing it, and is being treated accordingly. Try to be sure to draw the correct lesson from his example.

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Ya know, if it had been some kind of trivial or humorous rant, I could see making a joke (possibly) or a comment that it was too long to hold your interest. I don’t really see what function it serves other than to elevate your own “coolness” and put down the OP, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

This was a thread about the man watching his mother dying.

The SDMB isn’t about sweetness and light, but for Pete’s sake! Is your boredom/coolness/amusement at all us proles being interested really that important? Personally I can’t imagine a post much more boring than someone telling us that he was too bored/lazy/cool to bother reading a post or thread. blinking, until this last post, you had come across as a pretty decent person thus far. Why would you find this entertaining or desirable?

And no, I don’t agree that just because something is in the Pit, you have to expect that people will come in and shit all over it. The Pit is the place where we express anger, sometimes rage, often in language that may be less than, er, civilized. But I’ve seen absolutely clean debates as good as anything in GD go on here, real questions get answered, real humor expressed, and plenty of Pit threads where no SDMB poster was in any way the recipient of any of this. There are, I’m sure, plenty of message boards where you can go and shit on people as much as you want with no provocation whatsoever. But this actually tries to be something of a community, and among other things, that usually means that we don’t actually act maliciously. Angrily, furiously, indignantly, but generally not just meanness for the sake of meanness. And I have trouble seeing dropping into a thread solely for the purpose of saying “This was too long and boring for me to read it” as having any purpose *other * than pure meanness.

So, you know what? You can take your “right” to make that kind of comment because it’s the Pit, particularly in a thread of that nature, and shove it! If malice is your idea of amusement, I really don’t want to know you, even on a message board.

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[QUOTE=Miller]
Yeah, having a purpose would usually be nice before you post something. It doesn’t have to be anything earth-shaking, but no one is exactly sitting on the edge of their seats, wondering what blinkingblinking thinks of their thread. If the sum total of your contribution to a thread is to say that you’re not interested in the thread… well, not posting at all would communicate essentially the same information, and it prevents you from looking like a self-centered jerk.

And again, we’re talking about a thread where a guy’s mom is dying. If you were hanging out at work, and you overhear a co-worker talking about how his mom has cancer, would you walk over and say, “I don’t care about your mom or her tumor?” I’m assuming not, as people who do that sort of thing generally have trouble making it through the day without multiple stab wounds. Pretty much the same standards apply here on the SDMB as they do in real life. The Pit is a bit more relaxed in some regards, but there are still standards. Picking fights with someone whose trying to talk about an ailing relative is one of the few ways to guarantee you a board-wide beatdown, and probably some moderator action on top of that.

Yes, that’s probably what he was doing. And he was an asshole for doing it, and is being treated accordingly. Try to be sure to draw the correct lesson from his example.
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Most people think that messsage boards are different to two guys talking at work. That is why those posts like SnakesonPlane happen. You will probably never observe that happen in a ‘real’ conversation as you say. That is the difference.

As for your last sentence, you seem to be implying that Snakesonplane has been able to teach people a lesson.Seems his posting was useful for something then. Another person other than me may have been insulted by your comment there. Why do do say I should draw a lesson ?

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The lesson was “Don’t be a jerk” trumps “the Pit.”

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For fuck sake. This is not about manners or decorum. This is about the place that cannot be mentioned. Somebody posted:

Then some dick for brains did it and got smacked. He deserved it. He should know better than to bring that shit here.

I wish people like Revenant Threshold and others would stop pretending that this is about a rule or whether we are allowed to post nothing but “tldr”. Ofcourse you can, you can also post “I like green eggs” but you probably should not do it five minutes after somebody posts “Ten bucks to the first person who posts “I like green eggs” on SDMB”.

Like oy! said, posting it in a thread about an ailing relative isn’t a great idea either. But maybe in a typical long boring innacurate politics thread by one of the usual suspects wou be ok.

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Just because it’s ok in the Pit to rag about long boring posts, doesn’t mean you NEED to do so in every thread with a long boring (or otherwise) post.
If you can see from the title or a few lines that it’s about the OP’s dying mother, just back the hell out and go your own way.

I suspect some people here were raised by howler monkeys. If you happen to have been raised by hyperactive primates that throw their shit at those around them, the rest of us would just as soon not know.
(Of course, it’s sometimes so recognizable, we can’t help it.)

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[QUOTE=askeptic]
For fuck sake. This is not about manners or decorum. This is about the place that cannot be mentioned. Somebody posted:

Then some dick for brains did it and got smacked. He deserved it. He should know better than to bring that shit here.

I wish people like Revenant Threshold and others would stop pretending that this is about a rule or whether we are allowed to post nothing but “tldr”. Ofcourse you can, you can also post “I like green eggs” but you probably should not do it five minutes after somebody posts “Ten bucks to the first person who posts “I like green eggs” on SDMB”.

Like oy! said, posting it in a thread about an ailing relative isn’t a great idea either. But maybe in a typical long boring innacurate politics thread by one of the usual suspects wou be ok.
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The bizarre thing is that I really do like green eggs. One of my co-workers raises poultry and sells the eggs. and they’re green. And VERY good!

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[QUOTE=Oy!]
Ya know, if it had been some kind of trivial or humorous rant, I could see making a joke (possibly) or a comment that it was too long to hold your interest. I don’t really see what function it serves other than to elevate your own “coolness” and put down the OP, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

This was a thread about the man watching his mother dying.

The SDMB isn’t about sweetness and light, but for Pete’s sake! Is your boredom/coolness/amusement at all us proles being interested really that important? Personally I can’t imagine a post much more boring than someone telling us that he was too bored/lazy/cool to bother reading a post or thread. blinking, until this last post, you had come across as a pretty decent person thus far. Why would you find this entertaining or desirable?

And no, I don’t agree that just because something is in the Pit, you have to expect that people will come in and shit all over it. The Pit is the place where we express anger, sometimes rage, often in language that may be less than, er, civilized. But I’ve seen absolutely clean debates as good as anything in GD go on here, real questions get answered, real humor expressed, and plenty of Pit threads where no SDMB poster was in any way the recipient of any of this. There are, I’m sure, plenty of message boards where you can go and shit on people as much as you want with no provocation whatsoever. But this actually tries to be something of a community, and among other things, that usually means that we don’t actually act maliciously. Angrily, furiously, indignantly, but generally not just meanness for the sake of meanness. And I have trouble seeing dropping into a thread solely for the purpose of saying “This was too long and boring for me to read it” as having any purpose *other * than pure meanness.

So, you know what? You can take your “right” to make that kind of comment because it’s the Pit, particularly in a thread of that nature, and shove it! If malice is your idea of amusement, I really don’t want to know you, even on a message board.
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I think you can expect things to happen without that meaning it is deserved. Where did I say that things were entertaining or desirable ? I was just speculating on what Snakesonplane was up to.
I do not know Snakesonplane so I cannot know the purpose. You probably are right that it was meanness. But that could be wrong.
I assume that last comment about ‘rights’ was not directed at me. I never talk about ‘rights’.
I should have never started posting in this thread. I knew I would be misunderstood. Sometimes I am bad at expressing myself.

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[QUOTE=blinkingblinking]
Most people think that messsage boards are different to two guys talking at work. That is why those posts like SnakesonPlane happen. You will probably never observe that happen in a ‘real’ conversation as you say. That is the difference.
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As you may have noticed, the SDMB as a rule holds itself to a much higher standard than what passes for acceptable behavior on other messageboards. Hoenstly, aside from the threat of physical violence, why do you think something like that would be unacceptable in real life? Why do you think it should be any different on the internet?

Sure, he provided a lesson. An object lesson. “How not to behave on the SDMB, and why.” The utility of that lesson is somewhat suspect: so far the only person who seems to have needed it is yourself. How useful his post was, therefore, is largely going to be determined by how strongly you take it to heart, and resolve not to act like him.

I certainly hope so. I’d hate to think I’ve gone to all this effort insulting Snakes on a Plane for nothing.

Well, you seem to be asking a lot of questions, which generally implies an interest in learning something.

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[QUOTE=Yeticus Rex]
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Snakescatlady: Your moniker tells me two different things every time I see it:

  1. You are a lady who likes snakes and a cat (Most Likely)
    -OR-
  2. You are a lady who has a fetish for snake scat. (Least Likely)

I can’t help but noticing this every time I see your moniker. I am trying to resolve this personal issue through counseling. Forgive me. Mentally, I try to visualize a capital “C” in your moniker to help my recovery process…but sometimes…my mind wanders… :smack:

Again, forgive me.
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The Snakes part is the Columbus Cottonmouths - our local hockey team. I had never been a fan of sports of any kind until 10 years ago when a friend insisted I attend a game. I was immediately hooked, and have now been a season ticket holder for 7 years. I’m even corresponding secretary for the Fang Gang (our Booster Club)!

The catlady part refers to the fact that I worked in feral cat TrapNeuterRelease and foster kittens. Whenever a new player comes to town and wants a kitten, he is referred to me. I swear half the guys don’t know my name, I’m just Catlady.

Maybe I should ask the mods if it would be possible to change the spelling to SnakesCatLady. I really, really don’t want any potential friends thinking I have something weird going on with snake scat.