When you whoosh upon a star…
Don’t forget, the Harriet Jones government was brought down by the sentence “Don’t you think she looks tired?”
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons is a conspiracy group that believes HIV doesn’t cause AIDS and that vaccines cause autism. And that Obama used “neurolinguistic programming” to hypnotize the public into voting for him.
Crud, they are worst that I thought.
And now we know who is the group that is advising Trump and many yahoos in power. I agree with what others have said, I prefer a Clinton with health problems that a Trump (and a Republican party) with no common sence.
It appears she was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday and advised to rest and modify her schedule. Her campaign should have had a plan to keep her properly rested and hydrated at the event and to leave smoothly if necessary. Instead we have that terrible visual of her being dragged into the van. They they compounded the issue by not immediately disclosing that she was suffering from pneumonia.
From your own cite:
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I can’t help but wonder if your claim that a national association of physicians believes HIV doesn’t cause AIDS is similarly flawed.
But it doesn’t matter anyway with regard to what the poll found, unless of course you can demonstrate that the physicians polled said what they did untruthfully and out of political bias. A claim I should think you’d have a very hard time substantiating.
Yes, maybe the HIV-vaccine-hypnosis-just asking questions group is on the level this time. We won’t ever know anything about the doctors who answered this tiny self-selected informal survey from a right-wing conspiracy outlet, so it might just be the gospel truth.
Image, evasiveness, and a lack of candor has been Hillary’s problem for a long time.
It leads to suspicion and distrust. "What else is she hiding? What else are they holding back about her health? "
She may be in reasonably good health for a nearly 70 year old lady. But she’s created so much distrust that the public doesn’t know what to believe.
If she were running against anybody but Trump… She’d lose by a landslide.
Not hard if you had checked the cite I made already:
Yep, just part of the professional Astroturf groups out there that pull the legs of many conservatives.
Perhaps, but that is not the race we have, and once again, it is not just Trump who needs to be defeated, but most of the Republicans as well for using ignorance, bigotry and even racism to gain power.
Serious question: how much do/did non-conservative voters really hear about accusations/conspiracy theories about Clinton’s health before this, especially those that would be disqualifying for office? Sure, we know about all the right wing pundits blogs, and Trump has been pushing it to some extent, but it occurred to me that some sense of it is almost necessary for this incident to have maximum impact, and I realized I didn’t know how generally known it was.
And what you cited were the results of an “informal survey” conducted online and presented to this bunch of known ultra-conservative conspiracy theory whackjobs. There is no medical credibility in anything the AAPS has to say, most especially about a political candidate. They are biased by their very charter.
Just in case anyone doesn’t fully understand how absurd it is to cite an informal survey of the AAPS, the group was founded over 70 years ago to oppose any kind of government-assisted healthcare. They have since spent the better part of a century opposing every health care bill proposed, and their “journal” is loaded with totally discredited theories wrt aids, autism/vaccines, false medical ‘concerns’ about abortion, anti-gay propaganda, and much more in the same ultra-conservative vein.
In 1944 Time reported that the group’s aim was the “defeat of any Government group medicine” and in 1966 the New York Times described it as an “Ultra-right-wing, political-economic, rather than medical group.”
Additionally they tried to sue Hillary Clinton in 1993 over the Clinton healthcare plan and lost on appeal.
Quite an unbiased source to present with an anonymous, informal, online poll about Hillary Clinton’s health.
I winced when I saw the video in terms of how damaging it could be. But like most Clinton scandals, the full story is rarely as big of a deal as people try to make out of it. She just pretty recently served in what is probably the second most intense job in the US government, and pneumonia isn’t a chronic condition. She will take a few antibiotics and get some rest and be fine.
If not, Clinton’s corpse would still very probably beat Trump. Kaine could probably beat him by a wider margin than Clinton so the idea of him having to take charge at some point during the administration wouldn’t be all that damaging anyway.
So, in other words, members of a known right-wing fringe group with crazy medical beliefs conveniently hold a position that would invalidate the left-wing candidate.
Have you really never run into the AAPS before? This is not some large group of physicians and surgeons. It’s a group of cranks and nutters.
No, I haven’t run into it before, but since subsequent research shows that the poll is indeed an anonymous, informal, online poll, as Crazyhorse already pointed out, I’m compelled to agree it lacks credibility and I hereby withdraw it as indicative of anything significant in regard to Hillary Clinton’s health. In short, my bad. I apologize.
Yeah, be careful with stuff like that. There are a lot of groups like this.
This item, though coming from those deplorables, has value as Hegel could tell you.
A very nice cautionary tale for many right wingers. The scary part is that Rand Paul and many Republicans give their ears to groups like that. And we all can get an idea of where those weird anti vaccine ideas and many other anti science issues come up with doctors that are willing to support those very controversial if not insane ideas.
Trump also shows that he is also following a couple or more of those deplorable ideas from the list of issues that the AAPS is infamously known. Just check the list I linked before.
We really cannot allow Trump the chance to depend on groups like that one when deciding what to do with the CDC, the FDA and the EPA.
My mom asked me about her health. She doesn’t follow any of the politics directly.
She would never look at Trump’s twitter or a right wing blog. Everything she gets is from friends on Facebook and such. Yet she still heard about it.
Granted, she is probably leans more conservative than not. But she did vote for Obama last election. and almost voted for him in 2008. And she is rather anti-Trump in this one.
And I recently found out she’s pro-choice, albeit still anti-abortion. And she’s okay with gay marriage, even if she’s not convinced that homosexuality is not a sin. (But she’s open to the idea, and is mostly saying that it’s between them and God.)
Only because a candidate with limited mind control was able to capitalize on it. And probably would have won anyways.
Well, we can definitely rule out Trump being a Time Lord, since Time Lords have two hearts and there’s no evidence that he even has one.
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