I am amazed with the patience and understanding y’all have shown His4ever.
I am going to take Kirkland’s side on this. Dopers have tried and tried, to explain where we think H4E is going wrong, Mary Pit threads, some GD threads, and even a H4E flirt thread in MPSIMS.
I am still waiting for an answer from H4E, for the questions i asked of her at least a month ago in a Pit thread.
I am puzzled by the behaviour of this biblical buckethead. All who participated in these threads, have noticed she only answers the people who call her names, all the better to maintain a martyr complex. Put up or shut UP, you brainless schmuck, you filthyminded twit.
H4E, you are on my last nerve! You continue to demonstrate appalling ignorance in the face of many logical, reasonable arguments. Your God is a cruel, spiteful god and I am grateful that I do not have to crawl wormlike, to obtain His love and approval.
Well, just remember, two wrongs don’t make a right.
Kirkland, I think that Polycarp and the others are simply trying to be the better person. In other words, don’t stoop to the level of someone like Joe Cool or whatever.
Or for that matter, Jack T. Chick.
Take a deep breath, and remain CALM. I know exactly how you feel, but lashing out isn’t going to help.
Kirk, being an ass t o H4e is not going to get her to listen to your message. At all. Think of one major fault some of us have with H4e’s message and delivery: it sounds like condemnation.
Your recent posts are that very same thing. Don’t let yourself fall into the “I’m so pissed at you I’m not going to try to explain anything, I’m just going to flame you” trap. That only feeds whatever martyr complex H4e has, and isn’t going to help you at all.
Well, with any luck, the DC sniper will nail me, and then H4E and company will get to crow about God striking down the infidel, and they can gloat about me burning in Hell.
The hell you say! One of these days, I will have to travel to DC on business, at which point you and the rest of the DC Dopers will have to get me thoroughly liquored up.
H4E: You are familiar with none of the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I’ve asked you before and I’m asking you again: do not assert as facts that which you do not know to be facts. Now if you’d be interested in actually learning for yourself what those beliefs are, it’s quite simple to get some first-hand knowledge, all without having to join the Church even. What you get from the known liar, Chick, and others of his ilk do not constitute valid descriptions.
kirkland: Nobody deserves to be condemned as “evil incarnate.” What I wish is that H4E would do one simple, itty-bitty, easy thing: quit telling lies about groups of which she has no actual knowledge. Thus the query in the thread title. Well, maybe two things: quit telling the lies (my earlier comment was “regurgitating”) and getting some actual knowledge.
So why’re you so nasty to Catholics, to Mormons, to Gays…? I’ve yet to venture a guess as to your final destination, yet your pal Chick has condemned me to Hell. I’ve yet to call your lifestyle abominable, yet those you parrot condemn many good and loving people for that. Should I go on? Or do you now evidence a glimmer of understanding that many of here wonder, about you “why you must be so nasty toward” others?
But I’ve been on her side of a pile-on, so I know what it’s like. It seems to come automatically with being a libertarian apologist.
I’m not sure you really understand what a monumental task it is to give replies when ten or more posters at once each asks questions or writes a magnum opus filled with points you’d like to refute.
I’ve tried all kinds of things in that circumstance. I’ve tried to respond to everyone, and found it to be impossible since each response triggers more replies. I’ve tried to consolidate points and questions that were similar, but Joe Blow still feels like he was ignored because his analogy used sharks instead of squids.
Try it yourself. Pretend you’re His4ever and address all the questions, comments, and condemnations in this thread and others. Just be sure to stop before your fingers cramp.
What would be nice and possibly productive would be a more formalised discussion/debate where there would be a restricted number of respondents and rules regarding how many bounces were allowed on each side of the net. I can’t see any way of making that happen though.
And what would get her to listen? Polycarp and others have wasted time on the “kind” approach. It’s clear this dingbat doesn’t have the mental capacity to understand anything thats not explained to her in the form of a badly-drawn comic book.
This nefarious twit continues to back Jack T. Chick after the dozens of manhours people on this board have spent shooting down damn near everything that lying sack of shit has ever said about Catholicism, Mormonism, etc so on and so forth. She is either blindingly dumb, totally brainwashed or willfully ignorant. None of which are excuses for the stark condemnation she doles out to anyone who doesn’t fit her pathetic world view.
I can’t say I give a fuck about delivery. All I care about is content, and the content of what that spiritual tramp posts are LIES. Outright, unexcusable, unsupportable lies.
My posts are the truth. That’s all that matters. How I state it won’t make a damn bit of difference, because the dingbat in question has already had her chance to learn from the kind and patient people of the board, and steadfastly refused to do so.
At this point she deserves nothing but derision, ridicule, bile and condemnation.
Thanks for the post, Polycarp. Though frankly, I’d have prefered that the tramp in question not be told so much of my background, but so be it.
But watch, she won’t get your point. She can’t. She’s incapable of the level of thought necessary to understand what you’re saying. Which is amazing, because your average chimpanzee could probably figure it out, as many times as the truth has been explained to the dingbat.
People like His are a fairly good argument against the concept of human evolution.
It’s even worse in this case. There is a team of players on each side of the net. And then there is a lone wolf nutcase on methamphetamine who is running all over the court screaming that aliens are probing his anus.
Kirkland: dude, chill. Is it really that hard to say something along the lines of, “His4ever, you’re wrong, and here’s why. Beyond this, you’re not worth my time,”?
Sighhh…for crying out loud, people, for one more time I was asked a direct question by gobear. What was I supposed to do, lie to him? I have not been nasty to anyone. I’m tired of the subject of homosexuality. I stand by what the Bible says about it. It’s God who calls it an abomination, go argue with Him. What more can we say about it other than what we’ve already said? It’s been run into the ground. We will never agree on it, so let it go. Do I have to agree with the rest of the PC world on everything in order not to be considered a worm? Not going to happen. As to Catholics and Mormons, not agreeing with someone on their beliefs doesn’t constitute being nasty, get real, please. This board is full of a multitude of people and opinions and beliefs and we’re not going to agree on everything. And I cannot answer everyone’s questions. The board is too slow in navigation and my husband already thinks he’s a computer widower. He’s going to probably tell me to get off the computer and pay more attention to him. This is my last post in this particular thread.
I love a thread like this! It reinforces my belief that if there IS a god, it certainly doesn’t look like the christian brand – any christian brand. I think H4E should be ashamed of herself. Quoting the bible (as if THAT should make a difference) to hurt people rather than keeping her opinion to herself is decidedly un-christian and she’s gonna pay, even if only in the warped little prison of her mind. I will give her only the basic respect due any human being. That is, I would not walk past her if she were laying on the side of the road hurt or starving.
But she has no place in our society and I won’t pretend I have any respect for her in that regard. She brings nothing constructive to the table and she is not my friend. I don’t love her. And if this is how SHE shows love, I certainly don’t want to be loved by her! She is the one who needs to be saved – but not by the athiest/agnostic/gay/ catholic/mormon/wiccan folks who have “sinful” thoughts on THIS board. And I don’t mean “saved” in a religious sense. She needs to be slowly and carefully drawn back into polite society where human beings treat each other well JUST FOR THE SAKE OF BEING GOOD PEOPLE.
That said, let’s move on and try to save someone who has saving potential. Some people just don’t. She’s one of 'em.
