Holy shit, I watched Trump's speech from Davos and he is insane!

Pffffft. Our leaders don’t even know anything about American history.

I remember that. It was scary accurate.

Agree. I think his followers take it that way as well. He’s owning the libs, and if he says anything extra stupid, he was joking.

Thanks!

I swear I remember that he also talked about how his mom was being abused by an alcoholic partner, and he sees parallels between that and how Trump treats the nation. Which seems more apt now than ever.

It’s not a coincidence that the demands for mental health services have skyrocketed in recent years. For many people who have been abused by a narcissist, there’s a deep-seated sense of betrayal that everyone around you enthusiastically supports your abuser (as symbolized by Trump.) And a lot of people were in that situation, where the people around them did support the abusive individual, and national politics is making them relive it all over again.

His gift is that he’s white, rich, a rapist, stupid, ignorant, bigoted and malignant…and that’s what a large chunk of the American public wants. H’s not in power in spite of his flaws and crimes; those are what make him an icon to his followers. Those are what make him “charismatic”, his vileness is his appeal.

The 75 million of us who voted for Harris are well aware. Trump seems to have frontotemporal dementia (dementia that affects the cognitive parts of the brain, as opposed to alzheimer’s which affects memory). The parts of his brain that control emotions, language, social behavior, etc are dying off due to his dementia. If you watch interviews of Trump from the 1990s, you can see how much his emotional regulation, language skills, etc have declined.

Here is an interview with Donald Trump when he was 53 years old (in 1999). HIs cognitive decline from then until now is massive and very obvious.

He also has a form of narcissistic personality disorder known as malignant narcissism. He also seems to have had a stroke back in September, and he is a genuinely stupid person.

The world should not be letting 77 million Americans who voted for Trump victimize and terrorize the world. The rest of the world outnumbers American Trump supporters 100-1. The world needs to tariff and boycott the businesses of Trump supporters. Refuse to date or marry them. Do whatever we can to marginalize these evil, stupid people.

Trumpism has a lot in common with Islamic extremist movements. Its an effort by people who want to turn back the tides of progress and multiculturalism.

in the US we are rapidly becoming more multi-racial, multi-cultural, secular, feminist, larger immigrant population, etc. Trump offers to stop and reverse all that and take us back to the ‘good old days’ of the 1950s before civil rights, second wave feminism, gay rights, etc when everyone knew white christian men were the default people meant to rule and everyone else accepted their role at the bottom of the totem pole.

Also you have to consider that Trump’s failures are not a flaw to his followers, they are a sign of the importance of white supremacy.

Donald Trump is a white man. The fact that Donald Trump is so flawed on so many levels is a good thing to his base because it signifies no matter how vile or defective you are as a person, as long as you are white and a man, that automatically makes you superior to all POC and women.

If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.

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Donald Trump is the lowest white man. After having 8 years of a black president with an African name and a father born in Kenya, followed by a woman running for president in 2016 and a non-white woman running for president in 2024, Trumps base were desperate to feel like the most vile, disgusting white man was automatically better than any POC or woman on earth.

Yeah, I find it rich that so many people are saying that it’s entirely the fault, and only the fault, of every single American no matter what their beliefs and actions. The leaders of other countries have more power than an individual American, so should receive more of the blame. Yet the majority of countries are pandering to him, through words and often through actions. Then you have the few who are “aMeRiCa bAd” without carving out any exception for non-fascists.

If the world survives this, I’m not going to be shouldering the blame for not singlehandedly deposing him when other country’s empowered leaders are so pusillanimous as well when they needn’t be.

“It’s for sure a white man’s world in America.”

Stage hypnotists always start off with a spiel about how some people can be hypnotized, and some can’t. A few sentences later, they drop the idea that people who can be hypnotized are smarter than average (real, smart people see right through this).

:laughing: And The Indianapolis Star always referred to Marilyn Quayle as “attractive.”

China is targeting US agriculture with tariffs, which is good since around 80% of farmers are Trump supporters. So China is doing it right, trying to destroy the careers of Trump supporters.

That is what the world needs to do. Find industries full of Trump supporters and then tariff or boycott them, and find production from other sources. High school educated white people are the backbone of Trump support, so target industries full of them. Rural white areas are full of Trump voters, so target those geographies. People domestically in the US are refusing to date or marry Trump supporters. The world needs to stand up, there aren’t enough involved Americans at home to stop this. There is a rough cap of 75-80 million americans willing to vote to stop fascism, and that’s not enough to consistently stop fascism.

Carneys speech about an alliance of middle powers is great, I would love to see an alliance of civilized, pro-democracy middle powers.

The world shouldn’t have to pick between an authoritarian, pathologically selfish China vs an authoritarian, pathologically selfish USA.

Maybe it was. I mean, it was barely coherent demented rambling where he bragged as usual about his delusions of tremendous accomplishment while also insulting some of America’s closest allies. But all of his speeches have been nonsensical ramblings, so “best speech ever” is an incredibly low bar – it’s like saying that the speech contained words, and therefore was a great accomplishment.

I would adjust that to say that his gift is that 70 million (or whatever it was) are spectacularly ignorant and stupid, or have appalling judgement. I’m Canadian and I have a good friend that is a Canadian strong conservative supporter and he mentioned, in a conversation we were having, that Kamala Harris would have been “a disaster”. That was at the end of the conversation so I didn’t get the chance to pursue my friend’s statement. I have a lot of trouble with this whole issue as my friend is objectively not stupid, so I really don’t get it, though I have to conclude that something is wrong with him and all of Trump’s voters.

I’ve seen numerous items in the news, before the last election, in which various experts and talking heads stated that Trump should never be in power, but there was “no way I would ever vote for a democrat.”

I also saw coverage on CBC showing the Dearborn Michigan Muslim population who declared that they would never vote for Harris because of Biden’s failure to magically make all of the Gaza issues disappear; one spokeswoman actually said “if Trump wins, so be it”.

For some reason, there was a total and complete failure of critical thinking on the part of a lot of voters. And the fact that they couldn’t see the significance and implications of Trump’s nastiness, vapidness, dishonesty, and stupidity - which should have been almost immediately obvious to anyone with a functioning brain - is appalling and terrifying. And here we are.

Quite. “Stop the world, I want to get off” is a pretty common human response to change. The political challenge is to find ways of mitigating the genuine disruptions from socioeconomic change - tempering the wind to the shorn lamb - without pandering to the instinct to lash out.

You are probably just being hyperbolic, but in case the last bit is a serious question, here is an answer:

He is still president because the US (the federal government) does not have votes of “no confidence,” or recall votes. Some states have these for governors, and so some people outside the US (or inside, if they live in one of those states) may mistakenly think that we have them for federal offices.

I know there have been some high-profile recall votes in other countries in the last few years, of other leaders not nearly as batshit as Trump, so it seems odd that he should still be in office.

To leave office before the end of a term, a president must die, voluntarily resign (only Nixon has ever done this), or become unable to perform presidential duties. When Reagan was on the operating table, and then in bed recuperating from John Hinckley’s assassination attempt, George Bush (pere) became acting president for at least a couple of weeks; I was in the 8th grade and don’t remember how long exactly.

Trump is not physically unable to be president, and whatever anyone may think of his mental capability of doing so, he can still find his own way back from the bathroom on Air Force One. To be mentally incapable, the president must be judged and ruled so, which means someone in a position to do so must initiate a case for this, and have a lot of support.

If that does eventually happen, the Vice President will take over; we do not have special elections in such cases. I’m not sure the current VP is much improvement over Trump, other than he may not gin up supporters like Trump does.

You missed impeachment. Not that that will happen. But it’s a political process that can remove a US president from office.

Good catch-- thanks.

And, of course, it should also be noted that impeachment and removal is a two step process. The second step requires a two thirds vote in the Senate which means a not insignificant number of Republican senators would have to vote to remove Trump from office. In today’s political environment that’s simply a nonstarter.

The Constitution is setup in such a way that it’s nearly impossible to remove a sitting president from office short of death or long term medical incapacitation. That hasn’t always been the case but times have changed a lot in 250 years. We badly need a law or an amendment instituting something similar to a recall vote for federal office holders but a president can simply veto any such law, if it even gets through Congress, and an amendment is practically impossible for the same reason getting anything done at all right now is. We’re simply too divided as a nation and the two sides can’t agree on anything that’s actually important.