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The gay folks I know are not like this, from what I can tell. However, I have attended the Gay Pride parade numerous times here in Chicago, and as I’m sure many of you know, it is pretty outrageous. Out of all the parades I have been to in Chicago, it is the only one with naked people marching down the street, that is for sure. So, maybe (I’m giving the benefit of the doubt here), it is this kind of thing that the OP was referring to? And not just general, “oh, there are the guys who live next door, holding hands.”
Another story I just thought of…we used to have a gay couple living next door to us, and they seemed like cool guys. One day, though, we were coming home, and realized that from our porch we could see their PC monitor clear as day if we glanced in their window (our houses are attached, so their living room window was RIGHT THERE). Lo and behold, one of them was surfing really raunchy gay porn, right there for us to enjoy with him. YIKES! We were going to ask them to be sure the shade was pulled down (not for us, necessarily, but for any guests or kids who might be around). They moved, so we didn’t have to have that conversation, thank goodness. So, anyway, I don’t have any problem with what anyone wants to do behind closed doors, but I do think the world would not be worse off if people had some discretion.
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some here are finally beginning to understand what i’m taling about
Minotaurus, Sarahfeena has spent every post since that one apologising for the mention of the neighbour’s sexual inclination and qualifying her statement to indicate that she refered to the pornography aspect, not the homosexuality one. Why don’t you read the thread before replying?
[QUOTE=Happy Clam]
Oh, come on. It’s not as though the gays whom Minotaurus so hates and fears are on TV, or even in his street. It’s just the knowledge that they are somewhere out there, practising their filthy vulgar activities, and that they neither know nor care about Minotaurus’s repressed homosexuality homophobia that so gets to him. Even if we were to drop Minotaurus off in the woods I have a feeling he’d still sit there, little wrinkled lips* pursed in prurient disgust mixed with secret yearning as he fantasizes about what those dirty queers must be getting up to and why won’t the guv’mint listen to honest, upright (well, hunched under a weight of loathing and misanthropy) god-fearing folks?!
*I somehow envisage Minotaurus as a little wrinkled old man, slightly incontinent, with hair coming out of his ears, yelling at the kids to get off of his lawn.
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yes, the usual stuff when a person disagree with homosexuals or a persons with a very liberal opinion about the topic. You are accusing them for being repressed homosexuals and homophobic extremists
this must be some of the oldest tricks in these kind of debates
[QUOTE=Minotaurus]
yes, the usual stuff when a person disagree with homosexuals or a persons with a very liberal opinion about the topic. You are accusing them for being repressed homosexuals and homophobic extremists
this must be some of the oldest tricks in these kind of debates
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Ah, the old “ignore the people trying to debate you and reply selectively” trick.
[QUOTE=Happy Clam] Minotaurus, Sarahfeena has spent every post since that one apologising for the mention of the neighbour’s sexual inclination and qualifying her statement to indicate that she refered to the pornography aspect, not the homosexuality one. Why don’t you read the thread before replying?
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Thank you, Happy Clam. At this time, I also officially retract anything I said about giving Minotaurus the benefit of the doubt.
Minotaurus, I am quite sure that you & I do not see eye to eye on this topic in any way.
[QUOTE=MGibson]
PS: For those of you who don’t know the definition of “gay lifestyle” I’m pretty sure it involves shirtless men dancing to loud techno music.
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Oh! I thought it was big burly hairy guys in leather biker jackets.
…or was it young hairless Asian men with body oil wearing Speedos?
…no, wait, I think it’s middle-aged accountants who have been in a relationship with their middle-aged hairdresser boyfriends for 15 years who shop at Pier 1.
…no, I’m pretty sure it’s women with really short hair and comfortable shoes.
…or is it men who dress as women with really big hair and uncomfortable shoes?
I need a flowchart.
Minotaurus, I, for one, would be pleased to see you take a stab at responding to the questions posed by levdrakon in post #93. Here, I’ll help:
[QUOTE=levdrakon]
So what’s your debate? Has [Gay] liberation made society more vulgar? You say “yes,” because we see them on TV.
Gays have an agenda to push, inserting more vulgar homosexual “things” in our culture? You think this is wrong. But you haven’t stated what homosexual “things” you’re specifically talking about.
You fear what society will look like in a decade or two. Well fearing it doesn’t constitute much of a debate. What do you think it will look like in a couple decades, and why is it wrong?
If you want a debate, you need to more clearly state what it is you want to debate. In particular, you want to hear from homosexuals.
Well, I’m homosexual and I have no idea what vulgar homosexual gay liberation agenda “things” you’re talking about.
[QUOTE=Minotaurus]
yes, the usual stuff when a person disagree with homosexuals or a persons with a very liberal opinion about the topic. You are accusing them for being repressed homosexuals and homophobic extremists
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“Live and let live” is not a “very liberal” opinion. Wanting to forbid gays from doing anything in public that acknowledges their partner is homophobia, and repressed homosexuality has a corrolation with repressed homosexuality.
You know, as a straight guy I fight gay men kissing a little repellent. You know what I do ? I don’t stare at them. I also find eating beets repulsive; I don’t eat them. Who and what you find attractive ( or tasty ) is a subjective matter; your preferences aren’t superior to anyone elses.
[QUOTE=Minotaurus]
i’m getting tired this. Looks that you people are trying to make this as difficult as possible
i won’t have all this vulgar sex-related stuff in the society. Gays going hand in hand etc is not exactly what i was thinking about
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You have it backward. You are making this as difficult as possible by refusing to respond to any direct questions. You continue posting to the thread without actually explaining why homosexual public displays of affection are more disgusting (in your opinion) than heterosexual displays. You have failed to identify any aspect of the situation that would distinguish between heterosexual and homosexual behavior or that would indicate why homosexual behavior should be more tighly proscribed than heterosexual behavior.
You have alsobegun responding to actual requests that you defend your position with claims that “you people” are doing one thing or another, apparently for no better reason than to keep the thread alive.
That is pretty much the definition of trolling: posting for no reason than to get responses.
If you do not choose to defend your OP in an intelligent manner, I am going to close this thread. If you continue to resort to content free one-liners that border on the insulting, the closing will be accompanied by a warning that you are not to troll. If you actually had a point in the OP, now would be the time to produce it.
I don’t want a society that visualize sex/porn everywhere i go.
Like most men I occasionally watch porn and even girl girl porn, but i won’t have such thing in every corner of the streets. This is one of those things that belong in the private room
[QUOTE=Der Trihs]
:smack: homophobia has a corrolation with repressed homosexuality.
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I am not even thinking about disagreeing with this, which seems to make a lot of sense. However, I’ve seen it asserted a bunch of times without any substantiation. I’m wondering if you or another member have any supporting data for this.
[QUOTE=Polycarp]
I am not even thinking about disagreeing with this, which seems to make a lot of sense. However, I’ve seen it asserted a bunch of times without any substantiation. I’m wondering if you or another member have any supporting data for this.
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It’s based on a study at the University of Georgia.
[QUOTE=Minotaurus]
I don’t want a society that visualize sex/porn everywhere i go.
Like most men I occasionally watch porn and even girl girl porn, but i won’t have such thing in every corner of the streets. This is one of those things that belong in the private room
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Homosexuality != porn!
Again, please answer-is a man and a woman kissing porn? If not, then how are two men kissing porn?
[QUOTE=Minotaurus]
I don’t want a society that visualize sex/porn everywhere i go.
Like most men I occasionally watch porn and even girl girl porn, but i won’t have such thing in every corner of the streets. This is one of those things that belong in the private room
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This is a non-answer. If i run the Friday supplement looking at movie ads, I see a lot of heterosexual activity displayed, and pretty much no homosexual activity. (I did not see the movie, but I saw no ad for Brokeback Mountain in which the principals were undressed or kissing. If such an ad was produced, it was not widely published.)
If I look at ads for cars or beer or clothing or music videos, I see heterosexual activities, not homosexual activities. (I am aware of the couple of clothing designers accused of promoting homosexual images, but they are hardly prevalent in society.)
Now, you have already been advised that you are skating on thin ice. Either participate in a coherent fashion or this thread will be closed.
[QUOTE=Guinastasia]
Homosexuality != porn!
Again, please answer-is a man and a woman kissing porn? If not, then how are two men kissing porn?
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I don’t think he’s made an argument that’s even this coherent (though if he had, it would be a weak one indeed.) Don’t help him out here - he hasn’t framed an argument at all; you don’t need to try to sift the bits and pieces of what he’s saying to find one.
Can somebody PLEASE give me an example of an sexual act that is used exclusively by every homosexual couple and has never been practiced by some straight couple somewhere? Somebody?
I do not like public displays of affection, but I’m very equal about it. Hugging and a kiss are okay, anything else should be practicied in private.