How in the world would you handle this friend/girlfriend situation?

So here’s what happened. The bad, then the good.

Thursday night was a second bachelor party. I spent way too much money, drank way too much beer, and had an overall fantastic time. As we were leaving a strip club, I ran into a girl I went to grade school with and haven’t seen in like 10 years. I bent down to hug her goodbye and somehow started making out with her. I’m not entirely sure how that transistion was made, but I’m blaming it on her. I broke it off pretty quick, saying I was far too drunk to make out. She agreed and I went on my way.

Since my special-lady-friend-pseudo-girlfriend went to gradeschool with this girl too, I told her I saw her, but left out the detail about the kiss. Leaving out details like that is a rookie mistake and one I’ve made in about relationship I’ve been in. She found out about the kiss and was a bit… I don’t know… upset or jealous or angry or something. She laughed it off and just kept giving me shit about it over and over and over. I don’t think the kiss was a huge deal, but I probably should have told her about it myself.

Anyway, so because of this little incident, I was planning on skipping “The Talk” until things had calmed down from that small speed bumb.

So the wedding comes and we’re having a great time. I take her out for a slow dance and she starts giving me a hard time about the drunken kiss again. I apologize profusely for not telling her, and that kind of transitioned into her and my relationship and what we owe each other as “friends”, or if we’re even “just friends” or whatever. So by the end of the song, I asked her what she’d say if I asked her on a date. She didn’t answer directly, but said something like “well, are you asking me on a date, or are asking if I would accept a date?” Finally I just had to do it. I asked. She accepted graciously and we kissed on the dance floor, much to the surprise of all our mutual friends in attendance who had no idea anything was going on at all between her and I.

But it was adorable. I’m sure I looked like an excited school boy when she accepted, and I kept talking about how I needed to make a good first impression and clean my car to pick her up. She just laughed at me. I told her I’d take her to a nice place, but she said McDonald’s would be alright. I admitted that I was insanely nervous about asking her out, and had been putting it off for months because I’m a wuss and was afraid of rejection. She looked at me kind of crooked and said “you really thought I’d say no? You’re crazy.”

The rest of the night she kept saying it was weird that we were going on a date. I told her she was probably right, but it’ll be a good thing.

Anyway, fantastic night, and fastastic advice from the Dopers. Thanks for the extra bit of confidence that I needed to get that question out. It wasn’t nearly as easy as it probably should have been.

This is well before I actually asked her, but here 's the happy couple. Not necessarily a flattering picture of either of us, but there ya have it.

Let’s try that again.

http://www.tim.cx/mob/big.php?img=48&pg=1

I’m wondering where her hand is in that photo to make you look so happy. :smiley:

I like that - a combination of “speed bump” and “dumb.” :smiley:

Yeah, you should have told her about the kiss. No, it’s not completely logical, but there you have it anyway.

Oh, and I’m sure you know that McDonald’s is NOT alright.

(What a cute couple!)

Oh no…you did the right thing. Why would you tell her about the kiss? A “gentlemen” doesn’t kiss and tell. You weren’t going out with the other girl yet. I say it sets you up perfectly for a “I didn’t know you had those feelings for me” moment. Well played.

I’m not sure how well played it was considering it was a complete accident how it all happened. I’m not nearly suave enough to have thought it through that much.

It’s true that I didn’t HAVE to tell pseudo-girlfriend about the kiss, but this isn’t just a pseudo-girlfriend… she’s one of my best friends of the past 10 years or so. I tell her everything. Intentionally leaving out that piece of information made it look like I had something to hide, and I kinda did. I really was hoping she didn’t find out, but it all worked out in the end.

During our conversation, she kept saying the same thing… that she and I weren’t dating and I was allowed to do whatever my little heart desired. She just didn’t want me to stop treating her like a good friend just because she was possibly becoming more than a good friend, ya know?

You did it Saturday! Congratulations. The girl is very pretty. The terms friend and lover aren’t mutually exclusive, you know. Nonetheless, for the next stage of your relationship, emphasize the lover part. :wink: It seems like the two of you have already pretty much been doing the friend part.

The kiss bump was a good thing, in that her reaction shows that she’s a tad jealous. If she didn’t want you for more than just friendship, she wouldn’t give a damn about who you kissed, or how much. Rock on, Dude!

A few points:

You can never do this. Either don’t tell you friend anything about the encounter, or tell all. As you said, this was a rookie mistake. Not telling about the kiss makes it seem like you were hiding something. Women (and men) talk.

Good sign, actually.

Wimp :stuck_out_tongue: But her answer says it all. Be bold. No one wants someone wishy-washy. “I’m only going to ask you out if you if I know in advance you’ll accept.” Doesn’t cut it. Now, this line acutally works sometimes, when said flirtingly with confidence, and not as a poll. It actually can work well when propositing. “So would you go to bed with me if I asked?” :smiley:

Her response was all you needed to know that you’re in.

It does get easier. I was a complete fool for too long, but confidence is the name of the game. Remember, never worry if abut getting shot down, life is too short.

Is that just a weird photo, or is your hair blue?

Wow ! SMDB mission accomplished ! Nothing like getting beaten up in the internet to giving a man some balls ! :smiley:

Ok next blackmail step… if you don’t give her a very nice date we will stop talking to you and tell the moderators to shut down your threads… :stuck_out_tongue:
(BTW don’t show this thread to her ! No way, makes you too wussy.)

Nice photo !  She is definitely hot and fun. Don't make the date too formal or stuffy please.... we've invested to much internet time on your relationship to see it flounder !  Have a good time...

Great job wasson! I was in a similar boat years ago, and made a real mess of it. My hat is off to you for doing the right thing. You will not regret it.

If you don’t mind – a small bit of advice. Be sure to be clear in your head that she is no longer just a friend, but an exclusive partner. Given your history of having her as a girlfriend (at least on drunken nights) while still having your options open with other women, it may be harder than you think to make the psychological transition to monogamy. And beware future drunken hookups with old school friends!

Best wishes

Excellent, congratulations! Aren’t you glad you listened to total strangers over the internet? Now you have this beautiful girl to go on a date with. You should tell us all about your date.

Actually, before you wuss out again, you should give her a call and schedule the date and time that you want to go out. Don’t leave it in limbo too long!

Weird photo, I guess. It was just a crappy shot with a camera phone. Here’s a better one.

Anyway, we hung out face-to-face and one-on-one for the first time tonight since I ‘popped the question’, and I asked her work schedule so we could work out when our hot date would be. The only free time we both had was Thursday. I asked if it was weird to do a hot date during the week, but she told me she’d rather do it during the week than wait until next weekend. So also reassured me that McDonald’s or Subway would be just fine, but I’m making reservations at a nice steak house tomorrow.

I think I can take it from here. Thanks again for all the help and gentle nudges. Just 1 more question… should I bring flowers, or is that silly and sappy?

Christ, yes. It’s sappy and women LOVE it. Bring flowers.

Keep logistics in mind though. You don’t want to be dragging a dozen roses around all night.

Normally I’d say “Flowers? WTF?” Yours is not a normal situation. Flowers will be a strong signal that your relationship is advancing to another level. Flowers say that tonight is not just another “buddies going out” night. One red rose should do it.

PS: Both of you stay sober enough to enjoy the, um, fruits of your labors. :wink:

I think flowers are a nice idea. Just don’t go over the top. I think a single red rose would be perfect.

Yes, absolutely! The single-flower will do the trick. Try either the red rose or see if you can find a Stargazer Lily. They smell amazing!!!

Congrats BTW. You two make an adorable couple and you can tell she really cares a lot for you.

:smiley:

Excellent jobm, and a great looking chick! Best of luck to both of you. I agree with the flowers, the sooner you change the tone of this from a “buddy-ship” to an exclusice thing, the better things will go.

We all expect invites for the big day.

Does anyone else suspect that this whole thread is a cleverly contrived wasson whoosh?

I’m starting to get pissed at him.