I can't get a date (minor rant)

Wiser words are seldom said.

My SO had a series of casual flings with various girls before he and I got together, and one of them even posted a blog about “dating the unavailable guy who ‘doesn’t want a relationship,’” and then all but mentioned him by name.

Oh the irony, because he was going to be my casual fling, but he did, very much, want a relationship with me. And, like Cisco, I fell for him in spite of myself.

If a girl tells you she doesn’t want a relationship, but she wants to be friends, chances are excellent she’s telling you the absolute truth. And even if she doesn’t really mean the latter part, she definitely means the former.

She will meet someone she will want a relationship with, and you can’t beat yourself up about it. She wasn’t in the cards for you. Someone else is.

The point is not to get upset, but to be honest with yourself and move on. And don’t, for the love of Og, become that sad male friend of hers who silently carries a torch for the girl he can never have, to the point that he is blind to all other girls. If you find yourself heading this direction, distance yourself from the friendship. You’ll be doing yourself a favor.

Well, what makes you only want those two women, think they’re ‘cool’? Why not hit on every single ‘passable’ single woman in your area? Obviously there’s more to it than youth and a lack of mental health issues.

It’s almost like you haven’t read any of the replies in the other thread you started on this subject.

He started that thread after this one.

In that case, I withdraw my comment, and apologise.

Apology accepted. We can be friends again!

ETA: Oh wait, that apology probably wasn’t directed at me. In that case, we can resume being enemies.

Why you…!

No guarantee this will apply to you, but a lot of what you said reminds me of myself at various points the last couple of years, so there may be merit to these caffeine-fueled words:

You’re over thinking it. Plain and simple. Any thing else, say like getting a degree, a promotion, building a house, WHATEVER, benefits from focusing on that goal and evaluating yourself. If you fail, you can look back and think about what you did wrong, and make it a point to avoid doing that again in the future.

In my experience, dating is not linear as far as goals are concerned, and if you look at it like that, you end up getting really frustrated because if you are in a slump (like you seem to be now) its easy to get disheartened and even cynical about the whole thing. This happened to me a few years ago. I was dating a LOT of women online, but I kept getting turned down. A lot of times it was because they said there was ‘no chemistry’. I used to think this was a cop out and didn’t like that excuse, because obviously there’s no way to give yourself ‘more chemistry’ with some random woman, you either have it or you don’t.

After I got out of a two year relationship followed by a disastrious rebound relationship, I wanted to start dating again but this time I did things right: I had been dumped back in May and I basically gave myself all summer to focus on Incubus. I threw myself into my work, paid off a mountain of credit card debt, made some friends at my job, and steadily forgot about dating. After christmas, I started dating again, only this time I was much more relaxed and confident with myself: I had zero debt, planning on buying a new car/getting a new apartment, job was going well and I was intent on moving up, etc.

In other words, I was confident but not in a way I could fake or force. I was confident because I focused on my own life and derived enjoyment and satisfaction from it, so that when I started dating again, women could see that confidence, they could see that the things I had going in my life were not solely to impress women but demonstrated what I had accomplished/will accomplish in the future. This made me a much more appealing candidate to the type of women I wanted to date. So far I’ve really hit it off with the first woman I’ve met dating online again, and I really chalk it up to that summer I spent working on my own self.

I don’t know much of your own life, but I can tell you with the situation you’re in, having a steady job, being smart, etc. Don’t think it entitles you to anything. I really feel like if you have the attitude that you deserve to have X you’re never going to get it. Try to take a break from this, maybe try something you’ve been putting on the back burner for too long, do something outdoorsy or outside your comfort zone. Then come back to the dating scene- you’ll acquire traits you don’t even realize you have, but women will definitely notice them.

FWIW, I met my boyfriend on craigslist. He spent like $500 setting up profiles on eHarmony and Match and all of these other sites and after 6 months of that he found nothing. Then he wandered over to CL for an evening just to see what was there and he found me. We’ve been together ever since!

Be realistic in your appraisal of the situation, be open minded about the possibilities that are available to you, consider doing something new (take a class, join a book club, learn to ski, whatever) to have fun and meet people, and don’t get depressed about the whole situation. Also, make sure you have something to offer besides the things that you’re not. There is nothing that will turn a woman off faster than you thinking your strong points are things that you aren’t…this kind of thing is typical of Nice Guy syndrome and will cause women to lose interest very quickly.

Okay everyone, I’m taking everyone’s advice as best I can and am not trying to take things too personally. It’s my achilles heel.

There is another teacher I am now trying for. I was lucky enough today to team up with her for a field trip. Took the grade sixes curling. I was able to get in some amusing dialogue and break the ice generally. It was positive overall. We’ll see where it goes. She asked me for some help choosing an acoustic guitar. I’m going to e-mail her some ideas, and see if I can get her to come play in our community band.

Is this called playing the field? If so it beats being self-depressive over rejection. Eventually someone will say yes!

And I am taking the “desperate” advice as well. It’s hard to feel anything but when you’ve been alone so long, but I’m trying just to move along. If someone doesn’t like me…fine…off to the next person. I will do my best to make whomever that is happy and put a smile on her face. If I fail, well I try again.

I am really trying to change myself, I think sometimes my upbringing and my own faults has caused me to miss out on alot of great things in life. Hopefully 2009 is different.

Thanks all

No no no! Take ite her to a music shop. Get excited by it - enthusiasm is really attractive. Show her your talent and passion. And let her know from the outset (non-vebally) that you are interested - physical and eye contact, and smiles and sidelong glances.

There isn’t a good one in town alas! :frowning:

I could always show her my own, but that seems too forward to me.

I am planning on eating at school the next few weeks, hopefully I can get to know her better.

Like Dan Savage always says - “Every relationship is going to fail…until one doesn’t.”

Keep yourself out there and available and meeting new people, and sooner or later you’ll meet the right person for you.

Good luck! Keep us posted on the new girl you have your eye on.

IMO you are trying too hard. Changing yourself in order to attract someone you wouldn’t otherwise attract is a waste of time and will lead to unhappiness. If she’s not interested in you as you are, how are you going to keep up those changes for life? The answer is: you’re not going to.

The objective is not to date and to get a girlfriend no matter what. The objective is to be happy and satisfied with your life as it is. You are better off with no-one than with the wrong person.

You do need to widen your dating pool - by internet, moving, traveling, or taking up co-ed activities as previously advised. Get yourself out there; just sitting around hoping she’ll fall out of the sky one day is 95% not going to happen, so you need to make it happen if it’s going to happen at all.

Listen, I think I am taking a healthy attitude to this. I don’t understand the “trying to hard argument” Either I don’t try at all (which I did for my university career because I didn’t want to be distracted, that ended up with nothing) or I try to hard. I think I have to make it happen, it won’t happen magically if I do nothing. I am happy with myself, but I don’t like being alone. Maybe the new prospect won’t work out, but if I don’t talk to her and get to know her I will never know. There is nothing desperate about that. I won’t change myself, thats probably why the first girl didn’t work out for me. We had some good banter, but interests were quite dissimilar. I held my ground all the way through.

But seriously, I have had serious personality flaws. Anxiety, depression, obesity. I’ve overcome most of them and continue to manage it. I want a relationship, life to me is empty without caring for people. I think changing myself in some ways can be healthy. I have a tendency to be too judgemental…I would like to change that.

I agree though about Co-ed sports. I’m going to look into it soon.