I can't post in a thread started by gorewonfla

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… because such a user-name implies that he* has his fingers in his ears, eyes shut, saying, “la-la-la-la, I’m not listening,” which runs directly counter to the spirit of this board.

Or he is implying that he has some information that apparently isn’t available to the Florida governor’s office, Secretary of State’s office, state Legislature, United States Supreme Court, U.S. Congress, Miami Herald, USAToday and every other media outlet who has looked at the issue impartially.

Or, even if he doesn’t believe all of those units of government and media evaluations, his user-name implies a final decision without backing evidence. Again, directly counter to the spirit of the board.

Or he doesn’t understand what a vote is.

Is TigerswontheWorldSerieslastyear taken?
[sub](*I have no idea if this person is a he or a she. But writing and reading he/she and his/her isn’t fun.)[/sub]

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Uh… OK. It’s not like there’s any national controversy over the 2000 Presidential election, right? I mean, if there had been any question about the legitimacy of the Bush win in Florida, we’d have had all kinds of news articles, editorials, public debates and national press coverage, wouldn’t we? And surely there would’ve been one or two threads on the topic on the SDMB…

:rolleyes:
[sub]“TigerswontheWorldSerieslastyear” isn’t available but “BuchananwonPalmBeach” is still up for grabs…[/sub]

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Are you purposely obtuse, xenophon? Or did you simply not read Milossarian’s post thoroughly? He never claimed there was no controversy ove the election outcome. He’s railing against the dumbasses who refuse to acknowledge the overwhelming evidence proving that Bush did indeed win the State of Florida and reconcile themselves to that simple fact.

As for the poster *gorewonfla though, I wouldn’t sweat it too much, Milo; I’ve discovered that moniker is merely an acronym for the real truth, a flown gore, or perhaps, flaw on gore.

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You’re wasting your breath/energy. Instead of dealing with the people who can’t move on, you should spend more time coming up with new activities for our weekly anti-Gore lunatic fringe meetings–you know the ones I mean–where we club baby seals, burn coal and tires in empty oil drums for the sheer fun of it, plot ways to add arsenic to public water supplies and laugh about how a crooked majority of the U.S. Supreme Court stole the election from Gore. Perhaps next week we’ll serve grilled spotted owl and figure out how soon Exxon can start drilling for oil in Yellowstone…

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No, Unc; Milo derided the poster gorewonfla because he disagrees with the political sentiment expressed in his chosen username. But instead of honestly expressing his intolerance for all things liberal, Milo took his usual path and pretended that the question of voter intent is entirely irrelevant and that anyone who dislikes the outcome in Florida enough to express their opinion must just be ignorant of the facts or reality impaired. If he (and you) believe this to be true, all I can say is that’s the type of shallow, close-minded politically blindered attitude toward issues that runs counter to the spirit of this board.

But at least your post exhibited your usual level of civility and careful thought, Uncle Beer. It’s what’s made you my second favorite moderator.

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Interesting, xeno.

The user-name isn’t a “political sentiment.” It’s a willful statement of erroneous fact.

I can’t do that, because it isn’t how I feel. Your mind-reading skills rather suck, dude.

No, I don’t believe voter intent is entirely irrelevant. I just don’t think in most cases it can be helpful for determining the outcome of an election.

For example, your comment about BuchananwonPalmBeach … you’re right. Something fishy definitely happened there. But quantifying who meant to do what from individual, anonymous ballots is impossible.

How the poster feels about the outcome in Florida is irrelevant. Who won is the question. Read Point 2 in my OP as to my response to that question. Not to mention it’s Bush’s signature going on all those laws and executive orders that you dislike. Pretty strong evidence that he won Florida.

Oh? So if I continually assert that the Detroit Tigers won the World Series last year, anyone who spews a “shallow, close-minded, blindered attitude” toward that and disputes it is running counter to the spirit of this board?

(Now here’s the part of your post that I really liked!)

I outline logical reasons for my thread title. I use no profanity or insulting terms.

Uncle Beer, on the other hand, accuses you of not reading my OP thoroughly, which apparently means he feels it has some information to be gleaned that you missed.

Think about what that means if his post exhibited “careful thought,” xeno

Uncle Beer then refers to those who refuse to recognize the outcome of the Florida elections in the face of overwhelming evidence as “dumbasses,” and his comment about the acronym of gorewonfla.

And his post is the one that exhibits “civility” (with your direct implication that it was mine that did not)?

To sum up, what in the fuck are you talking about? And quit kissing moderator ass. It’s unbecoming.
[sub](Don’t get me wrong, Unc. I enjoyed your post and agree with everything you said. That you supported my OP was just a happy coincidence.)[/sub] :smiley:

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I apologize if this is a double post, but it timed out on me.

Yeah, but UncleBeer is an anagram for been cruel (or been ulcer, take your pick), which you have been to poor gorewonfla. And Milossarian is an anagram for minor ass ail, which is what *gorewonfla is to Milo. (It’s also an anagram for sir no salami, which needs to explanation.)

Xenophon is an anagram for no hen pox, a noble goal indeed, though I haven’t figured out the 41 reference yet, unless the goal is no hen pox by 2041.

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Hey, that’s great, xeno. You’re my second favorite anus.

Nevertheless, I gotta take issue with your interpretation of Milo’s post. What I read there, and I’m just going by the words and their meanings, ya know, so I can understand if this is difficult for you, is that Milo is pissed because the poster gorewonfla apparently has his head in the sand and refuses to acknowledge the facts as best we can determine them. This, he asserts, quite correctly, is anathema to the stated purpose of the Straight Dope. While we are here to eradicate ignorance, willful ignorance is an insurmountable obstacle to that goal. It’s also quite irrational.

You claim Milo, and I, refuse to recognize the Florida voter intent. This, you futher claim, is the real problem, and if everyone just accepted intent, rather than the actual manifestations of that intent, to be indicative of truth, Albert, Jr. would have indeed won Fla. I maintain, if we cannot measure intent, then it is irrelevant, at least for the purposes of determining the outcome of balloting. The difficulty of measuring intent is, who gets to measure, and how does he measure, that intent. I guess the actual ballots aren’t good enough for you. You might prefer something more reliable than mathematics, perhaps there’s a talisman, or some other method more accurate than science you’d like to offer us. May I suggest catoptromancy? Shockingly though, I’d like to nominate you to determine the Florida voter intent. You seem to possess some remarkable clairvoyance as demonstrated your ablility to determine the true intent of Milo’s post. Hell, even he didn’t know what he meant. Only you. That’s truly remarkable.

Do Dionne Warwick and her Psychic Friends know you’re pirating their gig?

Now, if you’d just admit to your hatred of all things conservative, you’d realize that’s why I’m your second favorite moderator. It has nothing to do with my civility or thoughtfulness, or lack of it, in this thread, or any other. At least, that what my interpretation of your *intent[/] is.

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all this speculation about a posters’ username? fer cryin’ out loud. While you’re busy talking about Dionne and her friends at the psychic network guys, ask, please, how you come up with ‘knowing’ what was in gorewonflas head when they picked that username (by the way Milo using ‘they’ avoids the whole he/she gig)

You’ve made a giant leap in assumption here. Shall we examine FireUnderpantsBoobs to ascertain if their user name is factually correct? Or smoke? do they? ummmm. and the infamous Satan I suppose he should have demonstrated his credentials first. And just what poll declared Bill to be, in fact the Wildest?

Sheesh. Can’t y’all find something a bit more substantive to fuss about?

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Interesting that Milo, while he missed the sarcasm in my “compliment” to UncleBeer completely, regards voter intent as relevant, while Unc, who understands sarcasm on a visceral level (as the most sophisticated form of humor he can generally handle), failed to grasp the simple distinction between accepting the relevance of voter intent and advocating a system of indirectly measuring voter intent, an argument I’ve never made and that is not implied by gorewonfla’s username. Gee, between the two of you there’s one fairly competent poster. (I suggest tandem posting more often.)

Here’s my point regarding the OP: The only thing implied by gwf’s username is subscription to the quite popular opinion that, had voter intent been recorded accurately, “Gore won Florida” in 2000. Anything else Milo “sees” in that moniker is what he infers due to his own preconceptions and expectations. And I don’t have to be one of Dionne’s little mind readers to guess the preconceptions of someone with over 2000 posts here, a good percentage of them defending his particular political ideology or spewing attacks on the opposing ideology.

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I was doing fine until I hit the Talisman suggestion.

[sub]I was still stifling my near-sardonic chortling as I researched catoptromancy…[/sub]

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I think that JeffB’s analysis is obviously correct. As for the thread, I thought it was a parody of the “I can’t post in a thread started by fecal_nugget” thread. But then, I always miss the point.

Milo, assuming for a minute you’re serious (because almost everybody else here does), I don’t think he picked his name because of some in depth political research. He did it to piss off conservatives, which apparently is working. However unwise it may be to pick a name like that based on the political passions of the moment, for better or for worse, he has, and the best thing to do would be, instead of judging him by his name, judge him by his posts, and realize that user names on here can sometimes be inaccurate. I’m not really a captain, for example. (Damn it, now I’ve got the song “La Bamba” going through my head.)

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I’m a liberal.

I like Milo. To the best of my understanding, he can stand being in the same room as me.

I dislike President Bush’s politics, views, morals, and ethics.

And I still think Gore did not win Florida. Why? 'Cos it isn’t true.

See, wring, the reason GWF’s sn bugs me is the same reason I’m irked by “Jenkins Fan.” They just strike me as promoting ignorance.

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Maybe he likes his town and maybe he lives in Rewon, Florida.

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“Gee, Mommy, look at that man kicking all over the place!!”

“Shhh…hush honey, he can’t help it if his knee jerks. He’s a partisan.”

How do you make a rolleyes smiley?

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If I hadn’t voted for Nader, I’d buy one of those “Don’t Blame Me: I Voted With The Majority” bumper stickers, if only because I live in Cincinnati, and that would really piss people off. Instead, I’m content with my bumper sticker of a bust of Marx. Some anonymous do-gooder has already taken a baseball bat to my bumper once. I’m hoping to catch the next one in the act, so I can call the cops.

In other words, what I’m trying to say is that righties should dry those eyes. You’ve had this coming for eight years. I’ll make fun of Bush all I want, because it was conservatives* who defined the bounds of acceptable national dialouge with nearly a decade’s worth of hysterical excoriation of anybody to the left of Strom Thurmond. Fair’s fair.

*Make that some conservatives. I respect the intellects and opinions of most people who swing to the right, especially on this board. However, I didn’t take kindly to being lumped in with Pol Pot and Stalin for eight years, and IMHO, the more reasonable members of the Republican party did little to try and moderate the rhetoric of the wackos. Take your lumps.

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Cute, stofsky. Look, do you think Albert Gore won the election in Florida? Upon what do you base this?

I’m not partisan, and it bugs me. Is my knee jerking too?

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I read half the thread trying to figure out how to pronounce gorewonfla…

gorwon-flaw?
go-re-wonf-law?

gore won fla!!!

I get it now… thats… an *interesting * way to make a statement.

kelli~ couldntfuckingcarelessitsoverletsmoveon ~belli

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Oh, and black445–doesn’t seem to me that anyone here’s getting down on anyone else for making fun of Bush.

Just for claiming that Gore won Florida.
Now, I have no problems with someone saying that “Gore should have won Florida.” Or that “Bush won Florida because of an inept and ineffectual system.” But the fact is, by hook or by crook (NPI), Bush won in Florida.

I don’t like it. But it’s the case.

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andros:

I take “gorewonfla” as a joke… I can’t believe that whoever that poster is honestly thinks otherwise. Maybe I’m wrong, but it looks like a mildly clever rasperry to the 'publicans. Milo bit, didn’t he?