I Think DrChuckie Needs His Very Own Thread

The BBQ Pit
221

Who, Joy?

Yep, I’ll be in big trouble for that comment!

Seriously, vanilla. I’ve long held a theory that folks such as H4E are either sent or at least “encouraged” to come take us heathens to task on our hometurf. Those encouraging them are folks such as Chick and Chuck; it’s their so-called spiritual leaders who’re sending out their minions completely untrained and unprepared for what will ensue. And their sole word of advice to this “army” is “You will be a martyr.” That’s all it takes for some folks.

Oh, she’ll be back. Much like the euglena, she has a single mode of motivation.

222

So youre saying she failed on her “mission”?

What is euglena??

223

Well, it’s already been established that I’m an asshole, so I’ll just be the one to say it.

His4Ever, I do not respect your views – I do not expect you to respect my views and I couldn’t care less.

I would suggest you take your own advice and not read this board if it pains you so much But if you really do get off on the martyr thing … hell stick around … spout ignorant every hour on the hour … take your beatings like a real martyr.

224

It took me 10 minutes to get that one.:o

225

That was a little more dick-headish than I intended. And it didn’t really read that great to begin with.

Ah well … whaddayagonnado?

226

yet you were more sincere than His4ever.

227

Do you even have to ask? I liked that whole policy of banning people who threaten to leave forever. Obviously they don’t need an account if they never plan on coming back.

228

Well, I for one believe you, like every other poster, should be treated with the respect you deserve as a human being – which does not preclude your opinions being called into question, should you choose to express them; that’s the way this board operates.

As for me, I too base my life behavior on God’s Word, and I would be the last to criticize you for doing so. The problem, dear His, is that you appear to selectively quote passages which prove the sins of others, while becoming offended if someone questions whether or not you sin. (We’ve discussed this at another time and place, and I will keep my promise to you regarding it – but please contemplate that just as you felt ire at people suggesting that you were breaking God’s law, so too are others going to feel ire at you suggesting that they are breaking His law. They deserve the same courtesy as you do, IMHO, from me and from you.)

And if you’re going to quote the Bible as a Christian, you need to work from the touchstone given us by Christ Himself as to how to behave from a Scripture-based mode:

I’ve quoted Matthew’s version because in it Jesus stresses most thoroughly that obeying these two laws in full is keeping all the Law and the Prophets; violating them to keep any other law is breaking the law as a whole.

And asked who one’s neighbor is, Jesus responds (turning to Luke for this quote):

I think stuff about “Good Samaritans” pervades American culture to the extent that we miss exactly what is being said here. I was born, for example, in the House of the Good Samaritan Hospital, and attended the church that founded it.

But for the Jews, the Samaritans were evil – half-castes, who had married outside Jewry, who held a renegade version of the Bible that read differently from their own and omitted most of the books they accepted, heretics at best and the equivalent of Moslems to fundamentalist Christians – though they claimed to worship the same God as the Jews, their beliefs about Him were so different as to constitute belief in a quite different God to the Jews’ eyes. If Jesus were telling the parable today, he’d have Billy Graham and Dick Cheney drive by without a look sideways at the man lying by the side of the road, and then have the man who stops and shows human kindness to him represented as a gay Arab with Neopagan beliefs.

I will never ask you to stop standing firm on Bible-based beliefs, His, but I ask you to do what Jesus said that we should do – and if you believe that your posts in the threads on homosexuality were showing Christian love to people, then explain why they were nearly universally acclaimed as showing hate.

If you could say to one of the gay people here, “Yes, I think what you’re doing is sinning, but I’m a sinner too – and I have found a new life in Christ. How can I help you deal with the hatred people have aimed at you? I want to help.” – then you’d move from apparent hatemonger to Christian woman doing what God told her to do in everyone’s eyes, just by that very act.

229

Nope. I’m saying that her mission is nothing other than convincing herself she’s a martyr. She’s doing very well in her mission. The thing is, she’s not a martyr and her mission has nothing to do with actually converting the heathen. Her mission’s sole purpose is to validate her predetermined idea that she’s a martyr.

A euglena is a “minute single-celled green freshwater organism having a single flagella.”. The flagella is what it uses to move; thus, flagellation as its motivation (motive power).

Ah, so I’m not the only one who heard that old, silly routine based on certain girls’ names!

230

Hi, Polycarp. I’ve decided to try my best not to post here anymore (it’ll save me computer time :wink: ) but I will respond to your post. You have some good points. I have yet to learn, believing as I do, to figure out how to show love to everyone here’s satisfaction and yet not compromise the truth I believe in.

Do you realize that Christians can share the truth in a loving manner and still be accused of hatred? It’s because some simply don’t like the message. I do not know if I can agree totally with the following that you posted, but most of it is good.

If you could say to one of the gay people here, “Yes, I think what you’re doing is sinning, but I’m a sinner too – and I have found a new life in Christ. How can I help you deal with the hatred people have aimed at you? I want to help.” – then you’d move from apparent hatemonger to Christian woman doing what God told her to do in everyone’s eyes, just by that very act.

I don’t think that “how can I help you deal with the hatred, etc.” would be the only thing I should say but let’s not get into that okay?

I appreciate your not talking to me in a nasy manner though we may be on opposites ends of this hot issue. This post it directed to Polycarp only. I don’t intend to respond further. We have spoken to each other on the PP board and hopefully will continute to do so.

231

shaking head sadly

:frowning:

Poly, you are a better man than most.

232 


_|__|__|__|__|__|__|_
|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|
_|__|__|__|__|__|__|_
|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|
_|__|__|__|__|__|__|_
|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|
_|__|__|__|__|__|__|_
|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|
_|__|__|__|__|__|__|_
|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|

Poly: Got one made of granite?

233

His4Ever, while I agree with much of what Polycapr has said, I’d like to add that I can certainly understand your viewpoint of homosexuality as a sin. Poly and I aren’t necessarily on the boat, but, I can get it. But, I take a loving eye to my fellow man, as much as possible, especially those who may not be Christians.

Remember, 1) the Bible won’t convince a non-Christian of it’s own validity. Many here know that I will post raw science, raw logic, or raw opinion, if I’m on a non-Christian/Bible thread. For example, my war posts and my abortion thread had no Bible in them.

  1. Love converts. It really does. Do you know how many Gay people go to church, even one where they can’t be ‘out’, just to feel someone’s love and compassion? All kinds of them. More importantly, some Christians, like myself, will even battle Bible-wise with other Christians, if it seems as though they are hurting people. Polycarp, who I consider a great man, and a wonderful ally in many things has had my back at least twice that I can remember.

So, in addition to love, you can add I don’t want to hurt you, and I don’t want other’s to hurt you to the list of conversion tools. This is an extension of Poly’s How can I help you, which is the other tool.

Polycarp certainly has love for you, and you can hear it. I do too. I hope you can hear it.

DrChuckie’s conversion methods are like putting a burning cross in a black person’s yard to remind them that Jesus loves them. You might not be with the KKK, but you can scare the shit out of people if you don’t know what other’s are saying to them as well. The word ‘abomination’ is not a loving word. ‘Stop your sodomy, or you’ll go straight to Hell’[paraphrase] (and I swear he used ‘lobster gobbling’ somewhere, which has a humorous Biblical significance I’m sure he didn’t get. Tow ebah, ha ha) is not a loving message.

I think your heart is in the right place. You just need to let your heart out a little more. You’ll always be our sister.

234 


/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

Here’s one made of diamonds for you, Monty. They’ve even pointy and somewhat sharpened, so not only will you have a headache the size of H-Christians, you’ll have the battle scars to remember it.

Almost like the wounds from a crown of thorns…

235

I want one made of bubble wrap. Pop-pop-pop!!!

236 

o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o x o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o

Here ya go, Guin.

Sorry, I couldn’t resist popping just one.

237

Here’s some real bubble-wrap, not that fake shit they make in the desert for unsuspecting simpletons.



O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
238

[bluster]Unsuspecting simpletons? Unsuspecting… harumph

You uncouth whippersnapper! How dast ye call me an unsuspecting simpleton!
[/bluster]

[sub]I suspected that bubble wrap all along…[/sub]

239

::lick:: Feel better?

[sub]And now that this thread is rather obviously at an end…[/sub]

240

sigh You have much to learn, Grasshopper. A lick is almost always just the beginning… :wink: