In all of this, why has the CIA escaped all criticism? They spend billions $$ monitoring places like N Korea-and yet, nobody saw this coming?
Why have a CIA if you get better intelligence from the morning newspaper?:smack:
Huh?
It’s not just the CIA. Nobody knew about it until North Korea announced it.
Sometimes a sudden death is actually a sudden death.
I don’t know. To me he looks more like an Asian version of Newman from Seinfeld.
Of course, in this case, its entirely possible they (that is, They) were keeping the Dear Leader in cold storage until they judged the moment propitious to announce his death.
And, he’d been quite sick for some time, so I don’t think the fact that he died came as much of a shock to anyone.
As far as the CIA not finding out about it immediately…my understanding is that a lot of the best intelligence which any spy agency can collect comes from actual agents on the ground. And, North Korea has apparently been a very difficult country for other powers to be able to get agents in place.
The CIA is famously full of blabbermouths who come forward and tell the world everything they know immediately after something in the world happens. I can’t think of an reason why them telling the press we know for a fact Kim-Jong-il died at 11:22am on Dec 12th might jeopardize their intelligence…
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say as important as Ralph124c is I don’t think the CIA shares everything they know with him.
Of the Dear Great Successor, Kim Jong-un
It is (whispered) he might be a wrong ‘un
Finds it all okey-dokey
To slam his bulgoki
To a Hyundai, with passion and longin’!
Oh please, oh please, let North Koreans call him “Fearless Leader.”
It’s too much to hope for, but still, I can dream…
Sharrup you mouf!
Iz makink beeg trouble for Moose und Squirrel und Dog!
Wikipedia says that was one of Kim Jong-il’s epithets. Dahling.
Actually, I heard it from the North Koreans first, a while back.
Damn kid went to college. A SWISS college! He’s brilliant I say! BRILLIANT!!!
Before long we’ll hear about how he’s invented pizza and ramen noodles and a wonderful new role-playing game called Capitalists and Castles played with a special set of 4,6,8,10, 12 and 20 sided dice that he personally invented.
Could be, of course, that the CIA made all this happen in the first place and just isn’t telling anyone?
In fact, I am not the first one to speculate that all those other world powers that were caught by surprise actually weren’t caught by surprise, but just kept real quiet so as not to disclose that they have better intelligence that they ever let on.
So that would make him Der Lieder!
Well, if he can combine and condense just the best parts of his father and grandfather, he’ll be the…Leader’s Digest
The Un-Cola.
So far, the Un-Koala.
Damn Jung-Uns. No respect for their elders…
He eats nothing but eucalyptus leaves?
And has a bifurcated penis?
Wow.
He’s stranger than I thought…