Thats a good point.
No…make sure you look COOL. You aren’t on a job interview here. I hooked up with two girls in one night on a bar crawl in the Upper East Side and I was dressed like a freakin homeless person (jeans. ratty thermal shirt under a t-shirt). You want to cultivate a “look”, not just wear a nicely ironed shirt and chinos. Are you going for a college preppy look? A sporty jock look? An urban look? You want to portray a look that tells the opposite sex who you are and what you are about. My look depends on where I am and what I’m doing. There’s “Derelicte” (the thermal, jeans, skull cap and T-shirt) for bumming around the village or going to muddy tailgates. The “Money” look (Deisel jeans and an untucked AX “money” shirt) when heading uptown. “Wall Street” (dark Brooks Brothers suit and power tie) for special events which often transforms into “Drunk Businessman” (same outfit with the tie and collar undone). “Newport Beach” (cargo shorts, sandles and Gap T-shirt) for just hanging out. “Fat Jock” (shorts, Polo shirt, baseball cap and sneakers) for …never. Basically you want to look put together without looking like you name your “looks”.
I have to echo what Merkwurdigliebe said about dating. In my college, dating was pretty much unheard of. It basically consisted of meeting a girl at a fraternity party and going back to her dorm or bringing her to your room.
In high school, I thought that you were supposed to get to know a girl, ask her out and after a couple of dates, make your move. Stupid. My the time I got to college, it was all about random hooking up. If anything, it is better to err on the side of being too agressive (as in making your move earlier, not date raping chicks or anything) and letting her slow the pace than have her get bored and move on. Guys should be fast with the physical shit but slow with the relationshipy stuff.
It’s all very complex and requires practice.
Damn, I gotta say that when guys did that with me, nothing was a bigger turnoff. UGH. Give me a guy who’s sweet and caring instead of going right for a piece of ass any day. How about showing some evidence you care about her, instead of just fulfulling your physical needs?
This appears to be the correct thread in which to announce that I am apparently as dense as a medium-sized black hole on a bad day and as dense as a block of iridium even on a good day. Oh, and that I can’t manage to sucessfully have any sort of relationship with a girl either.
Yay, another member.
Wes, I feel your pain, man, and I can’t remember who said (on the first page) that it’s easier to downgrade to friends than upgrade to friends+, but this is the conclusion that I reached myself this very week.
Leaving out the morbid details, and morbid they are!, let it just be known that it has been resolved to
(“KID, HAVE YOU REHABILITATED YOURSELF?”)
and hopefully things will work better next time.
I mean, shit. What I meant to write was:
(“MAKE MOVE EARLIER”)
Yeah, that looks good.
Tenebras
PS, garius, you rock. Hell, you rawk.
That would mean that the guy’s thoughtful and unique. Assholish and cookie-cutter pretty is the formula for today’s male hottie. Girls may think they want a guy of substance, but since those guys aren’t aggresively trying to get in thier pants (a side-efect of tact), the good guys are usually ignored.
I find it ironic that women claim that there are never any good guys left, yet they routinely pick from only the bottom of the guy pool. Hell, even guys know better. Hot chicks have issues, end of story. If a guy’s shallow enough, he doesn’t care. Same thing with girls. Meatheads that look good typically care about nothing other than their own looks, and the looks of their partner.
Such vain people get, and deserve, all the trouble they encounter.
Super nice guys are out there, they’re just pinned between the girls of their dreams that they can never have, and the girls that they’d never want to have dreaming about them.
If there was a winning formula, I’d be rich. My only advice is: meet as many people as you can, you might find your life partner that way. I need to shut up now.
Damn, i’ve never heard anyone else say that, when i tell people i’d rather have a plain or slightly cute woman over a beautiful one people always assume its just because i can’t get gorgeous women. Nobody seems to care about the propensity for psych. problems gorgeous women seem to have.
I guess you cant blame them for being more likely to be screwed up. Their whole lives men have kissed their ass, manipulated them and feigned interest in them while women have been jealous of them. That probably helps to foster a pretty unstable mind. Not that all gorgous women are unstable, just more likely to be this way according to the people i know who have dated them.
Well, I can only talk about me and my personal experiences, so no plurals here. But my boyfriend that I have is one of “the good guys”, honestly and truly. And with his first couple girlfriends, he had bitchy hosebeasts who took advantage of him.
But according to him, I’m “the girl of [his] dreams” (not those words, but I’m equating what he has said to the words you use) and had noticed me for 3.5 years in uni before even talking to me. He definitely took his time and had an extreme amount of tact (considering that he asked me if he could kiss me. So sweet!!!). And he’s the most sweetest and caring man I have ever, ever met (and it’s sincere and who he is, not just an act). **
I guess, in my opinion, nice guys are the best. And obviously we all hear “nice guys finish last”, but you know what I think? I think it’s just that nice guys have to put up with women who don’t deserve them, or women who do deserve them but are going through various phases/issues. Nice guys have to put up with more shit, rejection and heartache, but when they win, they win BIG ***. 
** Just one example: When we were driving to a movie, I started crying (I’m not going to go into the reason here, but it wasn’t because of him). The second he saw my face start to crumple, he immediately looked for a safe spot to pull over, did so, unbuckled his seat belt and held me and asked me what was wrong. You have no idea how good it felt to know he cared like that.
*** err… not to toot my own horn or anything like that. But hopefully you know what I mean.
I’ve heard it before that there are some gorgeous women that never get asked on dates because guys typically are afraid to ask them out. And the few that do, actually can get a relationship going. Who knew?
So maybe we can be some of the few? j/k, but maybe? I myself like like the “plain jane” look too. But I don’t discriminate! I’m generally equal oportunity, unless your totally gross.
I don’t know if anna nicole counts as ‘hot’ but i was watching her show once and a guy asked for her phone number. She gave it to him and when her agent asked why she gave it out she said something like ‘hes the first guy in X years to ask for my number’, so i guess in a way that that is true.
If I were a girl I would be bored to tears with your drivel.
Well… I mean, there’s nothing worse than that “arm wrestling an octopus” date, yeah. But you want a guy to act physically interested - he should be kind of in your personal space, if not touching your hand or your back or, er, “teaching you how to play pool” - I just went on a date with an EHarmony guy who seemed to have a good time talking to me but, er, stayed entirely on his side of the table and walked on the other side of the sidewalk. And when it was over he gave me that Mafia hug, you know, the one that guys give each other that means “you’re my pal but I’m not gay”, which when applied to a woman means… well, I dunno. I didn’t know how to read the thing at all - I assume he just wasn’t physically interested in me, and I was a little hurt because I thought I looked all fabulous. You want them to show interest!
Bloody hell - thought this thread died ages ago.
Whilst its here though i’d like to point out that i’m now dating the rather scrumptious rekkah from earlier in this thread.
My advice rules… 
Just wanted to let you know how sweet of a guy you seem to resurrect an old thread just to insult someone. What a prize! :rolleyes:
I’m 22, and never had a real boyfriend-just lots of casual sex over the years from various sources.
Can I join your table?