ETA: Scripture is categorical that there are no ‘other gods’. What you would be proposing is heretical.
Hmmmmm… I thought all indications were that Biblically speaking, there are many gods, but you’re not supposed to worship any of them but Yahweh.
But do you have a passage in mind that states categorically there are no other gods but Yahweh?
You actually believe two people become “one” when they marry?
Do you occasionally send reality a postcard?
NO, two people do not become one in marriage. They are still two individuals, both body and mind.
Forcing a person to have sex against her or his will is RAPE, regardless of marital status.
(I suspect that Kanicbird thinks each of us is (or perhaps can come to be) a physical manifestation of God. After all, if being son of God makes Adam a manifestation of God, and we are all sons of sons of… of Adam, then doesn’t that makes us manifestations of God as well?)
I thought Jesus was male?
The Father is perfect, the son was made perfect. So God can be both perfect and being refined.
The Father is the ultimate authority, the one that the son submitted to. Do you say to a father you are not perfect because your son is not yet perfect or does a son need time to become perfect?
We are all being refined to the status of His Son. IMHO the only entities that will not be refined are the devils aka ‘sons of God’ (Gen 6:2, Job 1:6, 2:1), but they will ‘evaporate’ away as they have ‘nephilanic’ children, much like a black hole will slowly evaporate away as mater escapes as Hawkins Radiation. This assumes that children are a part of the very heart, the very essence, a actual part, of the father, which I believe to be true.
I do believe that Job is a Nephilim, and a son of Satan, which explains the contest, it was that God wanted to redeem this child, Satan tried to hold on to Job. This explains the long asked question why the f*&^ did God allow Job go through this, and explains the dialogue between the Lord and Satan.
We all will become one body, the body of Christ. Marriage is a step in this process, a shadow of thing to come. The combining of 2 into 1 is God’s plan and is very real.
This process is very beautiful and is how God and man become one, do you dislike this concept?
Anybody know the proper singular form of Nephilim?
Many Cherubim, one Cherub
Many Seraphim, One Seraph
Many Nephilim, one - - - Nephil?
[BORG] Resistance is futile. [/BORG]
Kanicbird, I’m honestly curious.
Do you consider yourself a Christian? What denomination, if any, do you identify yourself in?
Last time I checked, he believed that
Christ was conceived of a virgin.
That he lived, taught, and did wonders.
That he suffered and died under Pontius Pilate.
That Jesus rose three days later
And that he ascended to Heaven.
In my book, that makes Kanicbird a Christian- an outlier on the bell curve but still a Christian.
This is fairly involved if I were to go into detail, and again challenges the view of reality and conventional thinking of the scriptures and teachings, but does not contradict scripture AFAIK.
A brief explanation of this is that the grave is not a barrier to Jesus, He has overcome the grave. God’s love reaches to Sheol (the abode of the dead), and Jesus can raise people from the dead.
We are bearing the fruit of our wanting to be our own god. That is what the fruit is, not a physical fruit, but the outcome of us wanting the knowledge of good and evil instead of just listening to our father.
Yes I would really like more terms for different uses of that word, I did have to add it to my spell check as it is.
Actually this is the way the devil operates, but as in Voyager 7 of 9 was liberated from the collective we can be liberated in Christ.
I am one who has left everything to follow Jesus (this in not some altruistic trait in myself but God gave me no option - praise to Him). I don’t truly identify myself with a ‘denomination’ as such but do attend a Pentecostal church at this time. If asked I usually say a follower of Lord Jesus. In the general sense yes I am a Christian, and do believe the outline that DocCathode put forth.
The Bible is contradictory on this issue, i.e.,
On balance, there are probably more references to many gods than there only being one God. I should have been clearer in stating that scripture indicates that there is only one ‘Godhead’.
Jesus was made perfect, so was at some point imperfect. This is a further scriptural contradiction. How do you resolve this?
This does not explain how children can be both ‘punished’ and ‘not punished’.
So by your understanding, Adam (also Jesus, the physical manifestation of God) wanted to be his own god. Humans are now being punished on the basis that the son of God wanted to be his ‘own god’, and disobeyed ‘himself’ in listening to and following his own command. That’s such a theological mess it’s indefensibly nonsense.
Equally, God gives those who do not believe in him no option,
How is this not immoral? Non-believers are determined by God not to do so, and yet are punished. It is illogical.
In that case, is it even necessary for the victim and rapist to be in the same physical location? Can it happen over the phone? On the internet? Via messages delivered by carrier pigeon?
If the answer to all of those is ‘no’, then the next question is: “what’s so special about physical proximity?”
If the answer to any of those is ‘yes’, then the next question is: “this is just a load of meaningless rubbish, isn’t it?”
To quote a song, ‘there is no God like Jehovah’. In that sense He is unique, but He does respect the goodhood of others, even calling men ‘gods’
Is 7:14-15 hints of this:
IMHO God will not hold a child accountable for any wrong until he knows enough to choose. So the infant Jesus is ‘perfect’ in the sense that He does not know enough not to sin, so sinless, but also needs refinement as He grows. As such, using a prochoice term, the infant Jesus is the potential for perfection at this time.
Children agree to accept the sins of their parents and others, by a parent saying that it is all your fault and the child believing it, the child accepts and bears the weight of it.
IMHO Jesus, the son of Love, is the first son of God, for Jesus to learn to be perfect in maturity we were created. We go through suffering in our life for a short time, then spend eternity sharing the full inheritance of the very Son of God, which is not something we have to wait for the Father to die (as He won’t), but the whole universe - teeming with life, which is currently hidden from us, is given to us as a loving thank you from our father because Jesus loves us so much that He is willing to share it with us. The Father will always be maintaining this inheritances and delights in His Son and us delighting in it.