Is this a date?

As a former girl, I vote against misery.

If you want to get to know her better, you need to spend time with her. I never liked dinner *and * a movie as a first date, but it does need to be a real date. Don’t go to a super-fancy restaurant, take her to one of your regular dinner places, some place you frequent. Let her get to know you, too.

Thanks, y’all. Some good advice here.

I’m really shy with asking girls out and also I just can’t stand the thought of putting a girl in the embarrassing position of having to reject my unwanted advances. I was recently on the receiving end of an unwanted advance and it was excruciating. I guess with the deliberate ambiguity on my part I am hoping that she will give me a more definite sign that it would be OK for me to ask her out. I realise thats pathetic. I already have some signs from her that could be interpreted (by someone more confident) as promising, so I am really just making excuses for myself.

I think the best advice is that I just ask her out on a date already. I know this girl enough to know that she likes me - as a friend, at least - and is nice enough not to make a big deal out of it if she didn’t want to accept. I think I’m more scared that she will say yes. :frowning: