Fundies (of all religions) are just sad people who cannot accept that people have differences, and, more seriously :P, can’t argue! Aiiieeeeee! Chick has no grasp on reality whatsoever!
A gay friend of mine (boy are we stuffed!) has an amusing MP3 about the evils of D&D (oh boy, we are REALLY stuffed!).
I cannot believe that people believe that stuff - could it just be a worldwide conspiracy/practical joke?!?!? please?!?!
Goddamn!
(oops, hell again.)
Anyone else reminded of the Bill Hicks’ skit from Arizona Bay?
Bill: “C’mon, man, dinosaur fossiles. What’s the deal?”
Fundy: “God put those here to test our faith.”
Bill: "I think God put you here to test my faith, dude…Does that bother anyone here? The idea that God might be fuckin’ with our heads?..God just running around burying fossils…chuckles gleefully We’ll see who believes in me now! I’m a prankster god! I am killing me!..You die, you go to St. Peter…he says ‘Did you believe in dinosaurs?’ ‘Well, yeah there were fossils everywhere…’ trapdoor to hell opens ‘Ahhhhh!’ ‘What are you, an idiot? God was fuckin’ with you! Giant flying lizards? Moron! That was one of God’s easiest jokes!’ ‘It seemed so plausable! Ahhhhh!’ "
When you get right down to it, the guy is just a lousy writer, which is not unusual among those who go into writing for lousy reasons. His reasons seem to have less to do with “witnessing,” whatever that is, than with the power to make the story turn out the way he wants it to. In real life, this guy probably couldn’t sell a pair of shoes to Imelda Marcos, let alone convert an adult human being to his mindless cult. But in his tracts, all of the educated people who routinely attack the Christian faithful crumble and convert the instant they hear a couple of out-of-context biblical quotations. Then there’s the fact that these people are hearing all this stuff from the bible for the first time as though they didn’t grow up in a predominantly puritanical culture. The world as this guy would have it is a place where just hearing the word is always enough. Ever notice how none of the humanists in Chick tracts are people who are familiar with the bible and have decided it’s bullshit? Even when you think he might be headed that way, it turns out that the bad guy is – get this – a devil in disguise; it’s as though there were no such thing as a person who could hear bible verses being quoted and then not be converted to whatever it is Jack Chick means by “Christian.” I suspect that the entire Chick publishing enterprise is founded on impotent rage at the fact that the real world is nothing like that.
I’ve seen maybe half a dozen of these things in their natural habitat. They don’t seem as funny to me as they used to, maybe because this Chick chap is such an easy target. But I have to admit, this thread has been an awful lot of fun. Peace,
nemo
Okay, now I can’t get “I’m My Own Grandpa” out of my head. Thank you SO much.
And don’t forget about the Holy Spirit being in there too. Three in one - the Trinity? God is actually the Holy Spirit, as is Jesus. They’re all each other.
Oh I must thank you all for showing me those chick links. That is probably the hardest I have laughed in a while. Maybe if I repent now I’ll get to ride one of those dinosaurs in heaven?
Growing up in Georgia in the 70s I and my fellow kids had Chick tracts shoved at us incessantly; given away at Halloween, handed out at shopping malls, found in libraries, you name it. While I disagree violently with Chick’s theology, as a cartoonist I have to admire the sheer reach one man’s vision has had in the thirty-odd years he’s been at the game.
By the way, the ‘cartoonier’ of Chick’s tracts are drawn by Chick himself; the more realistic tracts (and The Crusaders) are drawn by Chick’s long-time associate Fred Carter.
A fantastic source of information on Jack Chick is available in the second issue of Dan Raeburn’s magazine THE IMP. This issue-length exploration of Chick and his worldview should be required reading for, well, just about everybody. Word has it he and Fred are hard at work on a full-length animated film!
Anyone noticed the recurring ‘explanation’ of the letters IHS as ‘Isis, Horus, Seb’ as 3 [real] Egyptian gods , to support the notion of Catholicism being occult, and the eucharist being pagan. Shame it’s a contraction of the Greek for Jesus, Iesous. The I is the greek i, of course, and the H is eta. Still, at least they’re entertaining…
Just to be a pedant: in Latin, IHS stands for Iesus, Humanitatis Salvor–Jesus, savior of mankind, and INRI stands for Iesus, Natus Rex Iudaeorum–Jesus, born King of the Jews. Why is there an “I” in Jesus? Because there was no letter "J’ in Classical Latin.
While I’m on the subject, the Fundies put the fish symbol on their cars because the ancient Christians used the word icthus, which means “fish” in Greek, as an acrostic for the Greek phrase, Iesous Christos, THeou Uios, Soter. In English, it means “Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior”. During the persecutions in the first and second centuries CE, Christians used the fish symbol as a code sign to recognize fellow believers.
I haven’t reread this thread in over a week, so forgive me if I’m posting something someone’s already mentioned. Its called “A Fishy Story” and it explains the real origin of the fish symbol in a Jack Chick-like format!
Yes and no. Yes, there was fertility worship, and yes, some of the symbolism used was as described. But to claim a direct connection between that symbolism and the Christian fish symbol is as silly as the Jack Chick claim that the communion wafer is directly related to the Egyptian “god cookie,” or that IHS stands for “Isis, Horus, Seb.” Some substantive evidence might make a difference, but I certainly don’t buy it just because the Church of the SubGenius says it’s so. Pull the wool over your own eyes! You’ll pay to know what you really think! Praise Bob! Kill Bob! Etc.!
Except IHS isn’t Latin, it’s Greek…it’s the Greek capitals Iota, Epsilon, Sigma. The confusion comes from the fact that a capital Epsilon looks like the Latin letter H, so everybody thinks it’s a Latin H.