That is right. 
I don’t know about you guys, but I’m waiting for pchaos to come back in and misdefine something. It would improve the quality of the thread.
I don’t know about you but I’m waiting for him to be banned.
What they meant is that having children changes everything.
How do you currently organise your priorities? What do you currently spend your spare time doing? Where does your money (especially disposable income) go? What is the focus of your daily activity? What responsibilities do you currently have?
Sure it changes everything. You’re going to waste effort and money on something that is going to turn around and hate you in a little over a decade. And if you draw the short straw and have one with chronic physical and/or mental health problems, you’re fucked.
He’s trying to figure out how to warp that definition, I think.
Hopefully the hate switches back again. I never really hated my mom, we just had a rough few years when I was in high school. My brother never hate my parents.
And having a child with mental or physical issues isn’t always such a heavy burden that you feel “fucked.”
On the other thread, I gave a hypothetical for people to analyze.
Wut?
A hypothetical about what? Puppies? Children? Can you participate in this thread? Have you gotten the answers you seek?
I want to thank all of you for sharing your thoughts about your family on this thread.
Don’t hate yourself. It’s normal and healthy to be aware of the various costs and benefits of the decisions we’ve made and to sometimes think about how our lives would have been different if we’d chosen some other path. Especially when the costs of that decision are putting us in some kind of stress. That’s as true with having or not having kids as it is with any decision about your education, career, or romantic life. Just because society has pathologized this perfectly normal reaction when it’s in the context of parenthood, that doesn’t mean society is right. Society is in fact often fucked in the head. So don’t beat yourself up.
Did you not read the whole post? I took that possibility into account as well - my answer still stands
“you don’t know until you know” - the closest you can get to knowing without actual children is to adopt a pet - specifically a puppy. (cats are too easy by comparison)
I don’t have kids, mostly because I do have a fairly good idea of what they entail, and I’m not up for that.
In an unrelated post more recently, he was an average American, married, two incomes, kids, a house, etc… with very little time to devote to that topic’s related subject.
So not a grandfather. Not even a father. Starting to wonder if the marriage is a hypothetical as well.
I see you are as knowledgeable about clinical psychology as you are about most other things.
I’ve been making up hypothetical situations too long, it’s almost a second nature. I was just commenting on why the public doesn’t take atheists seriously…they are just too busy. But I don’t want to hijack this thread. I enjoy people discussing their families.
Fair enough.
I’m curious, what are your thoughts on it? Do you think you have missed out? If you could go back, would you have children (presuming you could)?
Exactly! How about the impact divorce has on the children?
Yeah I did miss out, it sounds like the children made a big difference in your lives. On the other hand, my wife dotes on me so I’m spoiled rotten and don’t have to do many chores at home. So I’m satisfied with how my life has turned out.
That’s cool - to each their own. As some others have pointed out, children do make a big difference in people’s lives, sometimes (my case) for the better and sometimes for the worse.
Do you have any nieces/nephews? You could get some of the good vibes that us parents get by interacting with them.