Just how dense is Diogenes the Cynic

[AClockworkMelon]

@Ibn_Warraq

Beyond that, he actually hasn’t admitted to making that mistake.

@magellan01

Post #86.

lol

[manila]

Yeah its a problem, lot of posters here, for example, Dio and FinnAgain have lots of well thought out, valid, researched things to say, but the style that they use is abrasive to say the least. The rhetoric gets in the way of the valuable things they have to say

[Cubsfan]

Has anyone ever been pitted with Greater frequency than DTC?

[kidchameleon]

@Cubsfan

Has anyone ever been pitted with Greater frequency than DTC?

Hitler, the Republican SWAT officer, while driving his car?

[John_Mace]

@Captain_Amazing

I think Diogenes has a lot of valuable stuff to say and is pretty knowledgeable, especially on matters like religion. His problem as a debater, though, is that he regularly overstates his position. It’s a common thing to do, especially if you get overinvested in the argument. Take the thread that was linked to in the OP, for instance. Diogenes’s original argument was that domestic Muslim radicalism isn’t a threat in the US. This is an eminently defensible position, and personally, I agree with it. When he was challenged, though, he moved from that position to the position that “there’s never been a homegrown radical Islamic terrorist in the US”. That’s obviously a much harder position to defend, and I think both I and Ibn Warraq were able to show it wasn’t true. Unfortunately, at that point, instead of retreating back to the more defensible original position, he decided he was going to die on the new hill he staked out for himself, and the debate became a matter of moved goalposts and dueling definitions.

I think this happens a lot, and it hurts him as a debater…both the tendency to overreach and the disinclination to back down. It’s a shame, because he is knowledgeable and I think if he could be a little more tentative and cautious in his assertions he’d both have more fun and be more persuasive.

Yep. As for the OP… he didn’t really mistake you for Valteron, he just mistook your place of residence with his. BFD.

[Baal_Houtham]

@Bryan_Ekers

Well, you rather foolishly let yourself get pulled into orbit around him so…

A fine funny.

[El_Kabong]

@Ibn_Warraq

It was almost as funny as watching him getting spanked and humiliated by Champion-of-Truth(hardly a rocket scientist) when Champ made him so mad he lost the ability to spell and was sent running from the thread like a whipped cur with his tail tucked firmly between his legs and his cheeks red with humiliation.

The fact that you seem to take such satisfaction from this makes you a rather small person, IMO.

Really, I’m sure there’s plenty to Pit DtC for if once is so inclined. For making a mistake of identification? Big fucking deal.

[Morgenstern]

Wow, we made it to the second week of a new month before a Dio pitting. Yawn.

[Shodan]

Don’t worry, Ibn Warraq, Dio will say something even dumber before the week is out, and then you can bump this Pitting.

Regards,
Shodan

[Euphonious_Polemic]

@Morgenstern

Wow, we made it to the second week of a new month before a Dio pitting. Yawn.

Perhaps, but this is one lame pitting.

I thought March was supposed to come in like a Lion?

[aldiboronti]

Willing, and indeed eager, as I am to join in a pitting of Diogenes on almost any occasion, I have to reluctantly give him a pass on this. Dio posts so often and replies to so many people it is small wonder that he doesn’t know Hisass from Hiselbow.

[BigT]

Dude, you’ve been here for 2 months. Yeah, your names aren’t all that similar, but this stuff happens.

[Bryan_Ekers]

Well, actually, the root phrases of the Arabic Ibn Warraq and the French Valle terre en are quite similar, both derived from an ancient Urdu phrase meaning “misplaced car keys.”
And now you know.

[kaylasdad99]

@nani

While I can easily guess the personal reasons why Dio confusing you with Valteron in the process of attempting to score a debate point would rankle, these things just happen when we don’t have faces to attach to the written names. I didn’t read it as malicious. BTW, when did Valteron accuse you of practicing Taqiyya? I’d like a laugh.

This thread, post #51. It earned him a warning in post #89.

To me, the real funny was when Valteron got butthurt about the incident when he started another thread…

[kaylasdad99]

@Bryan_Ekers

Well, actually, the root phrases of the Arabic Ibn Warraq and the French Valle terre en are quite similar, both derived from an ancient Urdu phrase meaning “misplaced car keys.”
And now you know.

And The More You Know…

[BrotherCadfael]

@Starving_Artist

YAnyway, no big deal. Dio screwed up, admitted it, end of story.

No big deal? NO BIG DEAL???

That’s, what, like the second time EVER he’s admitted a mistake??? It’s a huge fuckin’ deal!

[Cat_Whisperer]

You know, you can’t become Canadian just by claiming to be one on the internet. Our club is a little more exclusive than that. :mad:

[magellan01]

@Ibn_Warraq

Yes, but you notice in post 153, he turned around and tried to pretend he hadn’t said I was Valteron.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13540930&postcount=153

Huh? What you cited seems to support the assertion that he admitted to a simple mistake. I’m not sure what “mozed” means, but that’s the way I took his post. **Ibn, ** please give this up. I like you as a poster, but you’re making someone other than Dio look bad here.

[magellan01]

@BrotherCadfael

No big deal? NO BIG DEAL???

That’s, what, like the second time EVER he’s admitted a mistake??? It’s a huge fuckin’ deal!

Amen!

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