Dewey is my favorite murderer. Soooo stupid.
Not long ago I started a thread asking for shows that have had as many memorable characters as The Wire and in spite of the short lifespans some of them have had, I beleive the list of Justified’s characters would rival almost any other show’s I could name. Just glancing at Justified (2010– ) Full Cast & Crew should help to recall some of the real jewels we’ve seen over the five years of the show. And that’s not even counting some of the ones who didn’t get their credits at IMDb. For some of those Justified Wiki | Fandom can fill in some gaps.
I’m going to miss this show a lot!
That whole scene with Steenburgen was just. . .stupid. Duffy needs someone to make a decision for him? Really? Why are they introducing yet another (and unnecessary) character to this overburdened series? This season has really damaged the quality of the series. I don’t know if it’s because Leonard died or because they’ve just run out of story. Olyphant seems disconnected, and Boyd has become a cartoon character. Very disappointing.
Why is Ava in prison? She was being held pending trial for the one death, but since the old guy dies and the cop was assassinated, that charge was dropped. They were getting ready to release her when the guard did the self-stabby bit, but there hasn’t been any trial on that. For her to be convicted, he and the inmate he coerced have to testify, right?
If the guard ends up dead in a manner that gets front page coverage and makes the nightly news, wouldn’t that knowledge be enough to convince the coerced inmate to change her tune and get the charges dropped against Ava?
Boyd would never let the guard walk away. He HAS to come to a gruesome end.
But in the meantime Ava has murdered Patty the Daytime Hooker (Janice?) so keeping her in prison is “Justified.”
Wynn Duffy doesn’t MS to make a decision, he can make decisions by himself. He is all out of muscle. He’s paying MS for her muscle to get him out of being a middle man with all his muscle on either side. He doesn’t care which side he has to go with, but neither Boyd nor Detroit has any reason not to eliminate the middle man. MS comes in as a partner and cuts out the side she chooses. Her price for this “advice” is $50k, plus senior partnership, as Duffy becomes, once again, her bitch, which he apparently earlier got out of because he didn’t want to do heavy drug weight. Now he has to.
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But in the meantime Ava has murdered Patty the Daytime Hooker (Janice?) so keeping her in prison is “Justified.”
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Not justified as it was self-defense, but Ava being sent to prison without a trial makes no sense to begin with.
She’s a pre-trial detainee. They’ve obviously refused to set bail, which considering she was at first a murder suspect and then locked up for assaulting a guard with a weapon, is not that odd. That’s just the kind of crimes ( violent ones ) for which bail is typically denied.
but she wasn’t a ‘first degree murder suspect’ - she was a body snatcher/abuser of corpses - no one other than her, boyd and the silly hooker know she killed DelRoy.
And the only one pressing charges was funeral home dude - or witness to whatever.
Yeah, but funeral home dude was a powerful community mover and shaker - maybe he just got the bail set so high due to “community outrage” at the desecration charge that Boyd couldn’t swing enough collateral in the short term. At any rate she wasn’t held for that many days ( I think ) on that charge. She was on the verge of getting out when that Crowder luck :rolleyes: landed Ava in the Big House for “stabbing” insane-molester-guard.
See you’re making me work to defend a arguably weak plot point, when IMO there are so many worse ones ;). I do think the Ava in prison storyline is borderline ridiculous, but mostly for her run of luck rather than just the fact of being incarcerated. I can stretch my TV-calibrated disbelief to embrace the latter - tons of people get held in prison pre-trial for days or weeks ( or years for a few exceptional capital cases ). The former it is what is slowly overwhelming me.
Tamerlane - absolutely agree that its the weakest of the plot points - but it’s overly critical to the ‘demise’ of Crowder - in the prior seasons - everything seemed to go his way - to the point he bought a fricken Dairy Queen (or promised to) along with the house to move Ava into - so, IMHO, while the Ava stuff in prison is ridiculas - its whats driving Crowder to make worse and worse decisions - many of them reactionary instead of his usual plotting - he’s simply losing control.
This also goes for Raylan - he’s gone from ‘super star’ to ‘pariah’ over the past season - losing the suit to Dewey, lots of questionable shootings (if for no other reason than he was the only witness), setting up the killings by drug guys while he walked away - his parade of women - and last but not least - the fact that he can’t seem to keep his best friend (Boyd) IN prison even with everyone knowing exactly what Boyd is doing.
So, while this season seems to be the weakest so far - its really setting up the downfall, and possible redemption of, Raylan and maybe Boyd - as Boyd only real chance of survival here pretty soon will be to turn on his ‘partners’.
Man, I miss Maggs - that was a fantastic season.
On a totally shallow note, has Jere Burns’ forehead always been that puffy, between his eyes? He looks kinda weird. I googled around to see if he’s had plastic surgery – or an overdose of botox – couldn’t find anything.
In re Boyd and the Danny Strong prison guard: were we meant to believe that Boyd actually bought the “I stabbed her because I loved her” story? If so, I’m very disappointed. Boyd’s great attraction as a character has always been his intelligence. This would seem to be a notable lapse.
He seems to fluctuate, so I assumed it was botox. Last week he looked like one of the vampires from Buffy…
Definitely a lapse on Boyd’s part. I think he simply realized there was nothing he could do to the guy except kill him or beat him up, and that wouldn’t help Ava. I don’t know why he didn’t offer the guy some money, but that could come back and bite him too.
If Boyd had the resources, he could have found some dirt on the guard, but that would have come from inmates, and they wouldn’t be believed anyway.
Isn’t the whole point of cutting hands and shaking to become “blood brothers,” making a symbolic blood is thicker than water gesture? I watched that and all I could think was, “But they’re already related by blood…wth?”
You’re right, of course. Either the writers were making the point that Daryl is no genius, or they were demonstrating their own lack of genius. (I hope it’s the former.)
“Now I don’t know a lot about a lot of things, but I do know how to blow shit up!”
Did not see that coming, even though I knew something was up with the cigarettes.
This was IMHO one of the better episodes this season. This might be what brings Raylan and his boss back together. Raylan is going to get revenge, and everybody knows it.
I thought it was the best episode of the season, hands down. When Boyd blew Picker up I almost cheered out loud. I though the scene with Raylan and Tim at the hospital was great too. Just as it started to go cliche, it veered off for the best.
As it happens, I know how to blow shit up, too.
That was good TV, but not even close to realistic. They were sitting about 8 feet apart, and the explosion tore Picker to shreds, but left Boyd untouched, except for flying entrails.
That might be possible with a shaped charge mounted on an I-beam or something, but not in a pack of cigarettes, and certainly not one that was just tossed to the guy, so it’s oriented in a random direction.