Kanicbird. Yeah, It's probably pointless, but..

The archangel Ativan, one presumes, renowned far and wide for his extraordinarily strong resistance to the gag reflex.

But can they strip metal from paint?

That’s crazy talk.

This is silly. Have you ever seen an automobile, machine, computer or other device that said in the manual “this only works if you believe in the laws of thermodynamics, electronics and other sciences”? Things are true and demonstrable or they are not. You do not have to believe in them for them to work. As far as we can see God has never been shown to do anything out of the ordinary.

You are right in that your starting premise is incorrent. “Allah” is the same as “God”. It is just “God” in another language and it refers to the same God of Abrahm which Christians worship. So, yes, your premise is wrong.

Good point. We wouldn’t want any crazy talk in the thread…

Good. As long as we understand each other.

“I never tell lies. Therefore, everything I say is true. You know that it is, because I never tell lies, and I wouldn’t lie about a thing like that.”

Sounds like circular logic to me.

Allah is not the same God, Allah is a demon from hell leading people away from Jesus. This is evident in the story of creation (Genesis 1-3vs. the enemy’s interpretation in the Koran), and also with the use of the word ‘we’ when Allah, self proclaimed single god (very common with demons to use 'we

There is NO revision, the Word stands, while heaven and earth will pass away not one pen stroke of the Word will disappear.

God goes on what your heart is saying. If you call Jesus Allah and you are worshiping the Deity who died for your sins and rose again you are praying to God. If you pray to the demon Allah that Mohamed worshiped you are praying to that demon no matter what name you call him.

Note I put witchcraft, with it’s many potions, in the same category as modern medicine, Yes we can effect the spiritual with the physical. We can see this with things of God as well, the Lord’s Supper, the handkerchief that Paul sent to someone who was healed by it, anointing oil. It goes to how it is healed, what goes into the cure, is it Love - then that cure is of God, or is it money or other god, then it is of demons and sells that person into bondage (pharmaceuticals are a perfect example of bondage. trading a demon for slavery)

What ‘evil’ are you referring to? Please note that God goes by the heart, not the mouth, just because someone says it is done in the name of God does not mean it unless his heart is referring Jesus, who is the God of Love and as such no evil can be done in His Holy name.

Well, I’m out. If I eat one more bite of Crazy Bread, I’ll explode.

kanicbird, are you living in the same world as the rest of us? Every evil that can be conceived of has been done countless number of times in the name of God by people who are convinced that God wanted them to do so.

Then what was the point of the new Covenant? Just God’s way of livening things up a bit?

I’m not even going to touch that “Allah is a demon” stuff, except to say this: logic tells us that if all false gods are demons, the chances that you gambled on the one that isn’t a demon are comfortably under 1%.

Hope you didn’t bet big.

You guys are actually debating kanicbird, as if he were in any way open to logic, as if somehow you possess the one voice of reason that can break through all the insanity, where so many have failed?

You must be new around here.

The old covenant (OT) is technically a way, but one that we can not follow. It is the Law with all it’s rules, if you break one you break them all. It was put into effect by (IMHO fallen) angels, with God as a mediator. Because Eve followed the path of Satan he got to enforce such rules. It ran through those angels, not direct from the common man to God. The NT is the way that Jesus provides for us by Him following all the laws of the OT and dieing sinless. We get in because He paid the price for our sin, so the OT’s price for our sin is covered.

Even in OT times the NT way was available, though few found it.

Also known as the “No True Omnipotent Scotsman” fallacy.

Is this the teachings of a specific church, or did you make it up as you went along? Do you have a name for your religion?

Based on the below, then, you’re saying that the OT is still on the books, but unenforceable. Sounds like a bit of a cop-out.

Fully enforceable and enforced.

Except for the price of sin thing, which is a pretty big deal.

You really think that this is a typical example? So I can assume that every Obama supporter chains himself to trees naked and thinks pets should have civil rights, because I hung around Berkeley for a while?
I’ve messaged Kanicbird before about the proselytizing, but he thinks he’s reaching the people on the fence. Mind you, I’m one of the more churchified people here, but I’m not down with his approach, or, it seems, some of his beliefs.

My overall point is that slagging billions of people because of one tool on the internet is overkill on a billions scale.

The Church at Corinth IIRC, but all of them including Corinth, Galatia, Ephesus, Philippa, Colossi, Thessalonica, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Saddis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea, should hold to those teachings. It is not a religion, as that is made by man, but a faith in God through Jesus, sometimes called the way.

In what respect? Death is required for sin. Either the person must pay or accept Jesus paying for him.