I’m going to agree with Cervaise here. I don’t see it as a most-likely outcome by any means. Indeed, this is the internet, and our diagnosis is most probably faulty, and we are not, by any means, doctors.
That said, kanicbird’s posts have a tone we’ve seen before, and they match the flavor of schizophrenia. If it is, in fact, true that is his affliction, and he is not hearing the Lord, then I could see him being told that he has to kill someone some day, and using a shovel to do so. Sniper? No. Shovel, yes.
More likely he’ll try to mortify himself, though, as penance.
I remain concerned and wish that he would go and see a good doctor on these matters, for his future quality of life. We may be wrong, and I hope we are, but as a worst case scenario? Yes, Cervaise offers something not out of the realm of possibility.
Again I must call bullshit. What tone is there in kanicbird’s posts that makes you think he is schizophrenic?
He doesn’t spout anything my older brother doesn’t spout. Apart from kb’s saying the church he attends doesn’t match all his beliefs, he doesn’t spout anything my dad wouldn’t basically agree with. I think all three are, to be polite, dead wrong on spiritual issues, but that doesn’t make them any more schizophrenic than John Travolta or the Pope.
Does your father claim to regularly witness supernatural events? Events which are not just emotional, but literally seeing demons and stuff like that? Because kanicbird does.
It’s the messages, mostly. It’s hard to say, but it’s not the words, but the way things are described. It’s not just this thread, either. kanicbird is completely sure that someone is passing him messages, and that it is the Lord.
We’ve had people with similar issues with different focuses on here in the past… seethruart being one, if I’m remembering the tenor of his posts correctly.
Now if **kanicbird **starts floating theories about long-range anomolies in the book of Leviticus … I think we call for the nice men in the white suits and the butterfly net.
That was what threw me! I don’t do yoga: I’m in enough pain watching the bendy people on TV. When they say, “If a move is too difficult, meet us back at center” I think, “Okay, so I’ll spend half an hour in center. What else?”
Sadly, I really don’t want to go through every one of his posts. I know I should be obligated to do so, because I’ve said it. Most of what kanicbird posts is perfectly… no, not rational. Perfectly acceptable religious thought, perhaps? Certainly, it’s unique to him, but hey, he has some starting points, like scripture being absolutely true, and our understanding of the world is false where it conflicts with scripture, that then follow along reasonably. I don’t agree with it, but I can see where he’s coming from.
However, this specific post below made me more concerned. I’ve seen previous posts of his that seemed to touch on similar concepts, but I wasn’t going to say anything until…
That one made me re-assess what I thought of him, and I came to the conclusion that perhaps he should get a good checkup. It’s not just that post, though, there were others, previously, in other threads, that made me go a little ‘huh?’ I admit, I don’t remember them specifically at this moment.
It’s not just that post, though.
I asked him if he was okay, and he replied,
That’s not too bad. But then I thought about it again. He’s getting messages from things. That aren’t the Lord. That he can’t tell are or are not the Lord.
I want to make it clear that I don’t think the below is any too outre.
Except the ‘You can quickly tell what side someone is on by using the Word.’ bit. I’ve seen that in people with problems as well.
This bit really, really concerned me as well. The more sure someone is that the messages are completely true, the more concerned I grow.
Maybe it’s just that I work in drug treatment. There are a lot of people in our program, and some have real problems. Some turned to illegal drugs to mask out… or enhance… the issues they have. Some, it’s just concidental. But this isn’t just a ‘TV experience’ thing, it’s from some small amount of actual daily experience with people with issues like this.
I’m willing to accept I’m wrong. I wasn’t going to say specifically what I thought the issue might be, because at this point, I know I don’t have anywhere near the right information.
But I really think kanicbird should seek aid. Especially if he’s getting messages he thinks are from the Lord that, on second or third thought, he realizes are not.
Note that all examples are from this thread. They’re not perfect, but they are recent.
When I was in undergrad I took a class called Born Again Religion (it was an anthropology class) wherein we read a novel called Piercing the Darkness by Frank Peretti. The plot was about a bunch of touch feely New Agers trying to make a yoga class mandatory at the local elementary school because it would make the children calmer or something. LITTLE DID THEY KNOW that lots of demons would use this opportunity to TAKE OVER THE CHILDREN’S MINDS. See, all that Eastern “yoga”? Actually a way to lower your defenses and allow in the demons.
Fortunately for the children, the touchy feely New Agers and their defenders from the ACLU were eventually revealed to be Satan-worshippers and the good Christians saved the day from yoga! Yaaaay!
But, E-Sabbath, a lot of hardcore Fundies use “God told me to” as a synonym for “I decided to”. I’m not sure if it actually means anything. Also, I don’t agree with him, but it seems perfectly obvious how he could decide that an exercise regime originating as a part of Hindu “worship” (quotes because it’s not worship in the same way Christian worship is) is pagan and evil.
E-sabbath, it’s far from mainstream and I personally don’t consider it healthy thinking, and it is suggestive of several Axis II disorders (if the behavior interferes with functioning), but it’s far short of being diagnostic of an Axis I syndrome.
Caveats: IANAPsychiatrist, though I have a good grounding in a few basic principles of the discipline. Ruling in/out various diagnoses is impossible over the internet.
It is certainly far short, I would agree and have said as much. However, this is just from this thread, and in a very short period of time.
I still think he should go see a doctor. I’m sure he won’t, because people with these kind of issues never do, because they’re sure they’re perfectly all right.
kanicbird, if you’re reading this, I’m hoping that my feeling is wrong. I really am. You do have a different perspective on the world than I do, and I’m not saying you’re wrong, just different. I can understand where your head is at, even if I can’t put my head there.
kanicbird seems sincere in his beliefs and he seems to find peace in them. It( to me) is like a child that takes a frying pan to bed with him because his brother said if a monster comes in in the night he can hit it over the head. I doubt that he has convinced many people with his thinking and he seems to make up answers as he goes along. That is not necessarily mental illness but wishful thinking.