King James is definitely NOT a Catholic Bible. 
No offense.
Our family Bible is the New American Bible.
Glad I could help, and nothing to be embarrassed about. I grew up Southern Baptist, and I am convinced if they had their way, there would be no other denomination and they would be right about everything. While in a Southern Baptist church, one of the youth ministers had a copy of the Book of Mormon with a warning inside that read, “POISON! Do not read!” Well, you know what that did to me: made me curious. So I got a copy and read it.
The full impact of it all didn’t hit me until I became Wiccan for a few years, I understood a lot more of what non-Christians and unbelievers went through, so I have more empathy towards others. I did come back to Christianity, but with a whole different perspective.
Well, this place is about FIGHTING ignorance, and your’s was fought, and conquered, right? So there you go!
Along with Psalm 151 (NOT in the KJV Apocrypha) the above plus the standard Genesis to Malachi series are the Orthodox Old Testament (both Eastern and Oriental Orthodox – the latter are the Armenian Church, the Jacobites of Syria, and the Copts*). The Catholic canon includes all of them but 1 and 2 Esdras and the Prayer of Manasses, terming them the “Deuterocanon.” (Of course Daniel and Esther are in the long form in their usual places; only in the KJV and NEV Apocrypha are the “Rest of Esther” and the three short extensions of Daniel broken out into separate books.) Anglicans, Lutherans, and officially the Methodists accord the Books of the Apocrypha a “kind of Scripture but not exactly” second place status.
- This would be the Coptic Orthodox Church of Egypt. The Ethiopian Church, which also claims allegiance to the Coptic Patriarch of Alexandria, has a vastly expanded Bible with such things as Jubilees, Enoch, the Shepherd of Hermas, and the First Epistle of Clement included.)
Yes, I read the bible in almost all my spare time, I am nearly 79 years old. I have read the Bible to pieces and still have it. I can read a book in a day. In my freshman year in high school I read a total of 275 books( all fiction) The Bible, I read more slowly, I did not memorize it and at first I read it and believed because I was taught that it was the word of God. Later in life I taught it, then I began to see the contradictions, studied the History of the Bible which led me to study other religions, Archeology, History and the Dead Sea Scrolls, I realized the modern Bibles (this was in the 60’s) were translated many times and many books were not in the Bible, many writings were discounted and I realized that Humans decided what was God’s word and what was not. Humans stated it was inspired and humans decided what was holy.
I have nothing against the Bible or people who believe in it as long as they do not use it to condem, or harm others, the same with the Koran.
Some people are better for their beliefs, some worse, it depends on the person.There were many kind, and virtuous people long before the Bible was written and if what was written about Jesus had any truth he is quoted as using the Samaritan as an example.
The King James version of the Bible didn’t come out until way after Luther’s time, so every one who read or used the Bible before then is sent to Hell?
The New Testemant wasn’t even collected as one Book until 312 AD or so, that would mean all the writings, translations, etc. before the KJV kept by the Roman and Orthodox churches were then also wrong ? How do you determine what version is correct, isn’t that the decision of humans?
Apparently all we really need to rely on is **kanicbird’s **ecclesiastical dousing rod-- he’ll let us know what’s right.
Don’t believe that at all. They were following God’s law as it was at the time.
It is indeed. All I was speaking of was my experience with the Pentecostals.
Nothing to add to the thread except that kanicbird is the calmest Pittee I’ve ever seen. No lashing back - nothing.
Can’t say I agree with you all that much, kanicbird, but your responses are a lot more Christian than those of a lot of people who I do agree with.
Regards,
Shodan
A lesson for you?
Kanicbird’s happy being a martyr?
Waitaminnit.
If it is The literal thou shalt not change mess with or alter WORD OF GOD (echo effects), then WHICH is the right one? For that matter, which translasion? What if the REAL book was lost long ago?
We’re doomed. Doomed I say.
Nahhh, cookies fix everything.
People managed to survive with the old translations which made it possible to extend the Christian teachings.Since it wasn’t until the King James version(which used the older versions one can safely say none could be correct.
He’s the bomb. The fact so many people hate him makes me like him even more.
I don’t hate him. I find him hilarious. I can’t believe he’s kept up this schtick for so long and so well.
If he is, however, not just taking the piss out of us, then I still don’t hate him. I feel sorry for him.
I certainly don’t hate him either. At worst, he’s a victim of religion.
No, at worst he’s a schizophrenic who’s going to wind up bludgeoning strangers to death with a shovel.
You know, I’m hardly a fan of kanicbird, but that’s bullshit. Nothing he’s said has indicated that he, personally, is even remotely inclined to violent resolutions to problems. I’ll go out on a limb and guess that I am a more violent person than he.
Now it’s true that kanicbird is an apologist for the genocidal actions his god committed in what he thinks of as history and most of us think of as myth. But I feel confident in saying that kanicbird would feel that God having authority to do a thing does not translate into his followers having permission to do the same thing, or even the same sort of thing. I know more than a few Pentecostal, evengelical, and fundamaentalist Xtians, and generally they see a disconnect between events that occurred in Biblical “times” and those in the present. They would say that, to use a Tolkienesque turn of phrase, the life of Christ represented a change in the Age of the world, and that the way God presents himself is different now, as are the ways he expects his followers to behave.
Don’t misinterpret the above as agreeing with kanicbird’s repellent statements demons & Nephilim and so forth. But it’s simply not fair or honest to imply that he is an incipient murderer. Doing so is no different and no better than George Bush saying that atheists cannot be true Americans.
He did say at “worst”, not at “likely”.
While ill dressed. Which would be even worse.