Kids have started watching Star Trek TOS and like it

If the graphics people were going to dick around with the TOS episodes, why in heaven’s name didn’t they give the Gorn in “Arena” reptilian eyes f’rchrissakes?!? :confused:

They created a whole CGI Gorn for “ST: Enterprise”; you’d think it would occur to them to at least change the eyes of the original! :mad:

This could be another fun topic: What else do you wish they had changed (but didn’t) when they remastered the TOS episodes?

Always seemed to be followed by “I am sorry… I beg your pardon… for putting the bridge of my foot… thru your Adam’s Apple… most vigourously”

Mostest, most awsomest, goodest* show ever!

*Six-year old for “best”

So they’re of the body now, huh?

That was Landru. Now they’re People of Vaal. :smiley:

I just watched Amock Time. I love how McCoy gets to save the day there but wouldn’t T’Pau be pissed off at the Federation later when she finds out that Kirk is not dead?
Galileo Seven is another favorite.
I have mixed feeling about the new FX. Yes they look good and I’m sure that’s what they imagined when they did it but, well, I don’t really watch Trek for the FX. I like the stories. I like the acting. That’s enough.
How old are your kids?

They did change the eyes of the Gorn in Arena, in the remastered version he blinks every few seconds and has eyelids.

FWIW I am under thirty and I HATED the CGI Gorn in Enterprise, much prefer the guy in a rubber suit version.

Yeah, but they’re still insectoid compound eyes. I would again say to them: If you’re gonna dick with something, f’rchrissakes, do it all the way! :smack:

Brent Spiner made a Gorn virus, you see…

Perhaps they aren’t Terran type reptiles. ^:)^

Yeah, or maybe he was just the victim of an Augment-type virus experiment. :rolleyes:

You can justify practically anything in SF, I suppose, but not in real science.

Ee-yup! Great minds think alike! :cool:

Good Lord, they are traveling faster than light.

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Has the existence of tachyons been definitively disproven? Eh? Eh? :dubious:

Why in the world should an alien with scaly skin necessarily have eyes like those of a Terrestrial reptile? Why shouldn’t an alien have scaly skin but compound eyes? There but for a random fluke of evolution go we.

I read somewhere (so my post is my cite :)) that Gene Roddenberry insisted no alien’s eyes would be anything but human.

Which doesn’t explain the gorn.

Compound eyes on any type of being higher than an insect? I’ll believe *that *when I see it! (No pun intended.)

In all seriousness, I think all you need to do to see how evolution works is to look around planet Earth. Out of all the millions (if not billions) of species that have evolved here, which have survived to become dominant?

Natural selection simply has to follow certain laws. Different conditions might produce subtle variations, but some things will remain the same: symmetrical anatomy, erect bodies, bipedal locomotion (walking), stereoscopic vision, color vision, grasping hands… These are all survival mechanisms that give primates an edge over their competitors.

Hell, before they were wiped out in the extinction event 65 million years ago, even the dinosaurs were evolving to fit that pattern. Instead of primates, we too might have ended up intelligent reptiles. But we wouldn’t have had compound eyes. What possible survival advantage could that give us?

This is, BTW, the kind of reasoning that was used in the production of TOS (and the other series). Roddenberry made this clear in The Making of Star Trek by Stephen E. Whitfield. It wasn’t just problems with casting, make-up, and wardrobe that forced them to have humanoid aliens. The Enterprise was specifically ordered to confine its mission to planets that would support such life forms.

Like the Horta and the flying pizza thingies?
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The Enterprise was diverted to Janus IV specifically in response to the miners’ call for assistance against the Horta. The miners were there (in an artificial oxygen atmosphere) only because the planet was so mineral-rich.

The flying pizza thingies weren’t native to Deneva. They had been brought there eight months previously aboard another ship, and were from a place (outside our Galaxy?) where, according to Spock, “our physical laws do not apply.”