I’m gonna have to jump on board with what FuriosGeorge is saying (probably not making many friends here tonight).
Rand Rover clearly and unquestionably denounced North Carolina for passing this ammendment. He disagreed with it. He even said it would affect his decision to ever move there.
He also happens to value other issues more importantly than he does gay marriage. I disagree with him (me being gay and all and wanting more than anything else to be able to have my own marriage one day recognized by the government), but that’s his value judgment, and we all make them.
He may side with the republicans overall, because he disagrees with democrats on so many issues. The right for gay marriage recognition is evidently not one of them, and he stood up and denounced it.
Now, the fact that Rand Rover is flippantly declaring that he is gay and that we can’t prove he isn’t to try and show that sexual orientation can’t be used as a basis for constitutional protection is deeply troublesome to me, and it shows great disconnect with how gay people feel and his view of reality. It’s sad and frustrating, and I don’t think it’s anything honestly to laugh about. He didn’t come out. He’s trying to cheapen what it means to be gay by saying that being gay is not an immutable characteristic of a person.
Wow, now that was one hell of an obscure reference!
BTW, the novel was much better than the movie.
And, I for one, am pleased to recognize the courage of one of our proudest paleo-conservatives in declaring his true sexual orientation.
I assume he is now in the process of resigning from his local Moose lodge (or was it Rotarians?) and joining in the ‘local scene’.
I wasn’t responding to any other thread, I was just here to beat the pinata until some gay candy came out. Soooo…Lemonhead anyone? Juicy Fruit? Whopper?
Rand Rover - one of the more reliably predicatable posters on this board, came out and said that he not only supported gay marriage (i.e., he would vote in favor of it), but that he condemned NC for voting against it. That’s progress, folks! Celebrate it, don’t pull a “no true Scotsman” because he didn’t fly down to North Carolina and protest on main street.
FYI, I meant to say this in the other thread. Rand, you and I disagree about tons of things, but I congratulate you for your stance on this issue. Looking at it objectively, I shouldn’t be surprised (it’s actually the stance any Libertarian should take), but it’s amazing how many of your fellow travellers manage the disconnect.*
*The above is not meant sarcastically, condescendingly, or in any way other than complimentary. Truly.
Oh, my bad - I already had the Whoppers w/ me when I got the gay pinata open.
Lifesavers will have to be your judgment call, man. It’s not my head on your pillow at night.
Gay or straight, I think we can all agree Nerds are virgins.
You’re a disingenuous ass and a coward. bucketybuck nailed it, so did FuriousGeorge. If you don’t agree with RR’s post (or stance), refute it. Snickering “he said he’s gay, tee hee!” as a dig and pretending you’re not is lame.
No. Y’all are engaged in some lousy analysis of the joke.
Here’s the situation: Rand Rover made a shitty argument (namely, that being gay is different from being black because you can’t prove that someone is gay) and explained it in a ludicrous fashion (I’m gay. Prove I’m not.)
The argument isn’t really worth being taken seriously, so people are making fun of him for his stupid argument instead of taking it seriously.
That’s all.
If you need to turn that into a lynch mob, you need help.
Ever read Woody Allen’s story about the chess patzer, wood pusher, discovered a chess opening so incredibly stupid, so shockingly ignorant, that it deranged the mind. Chess masters confronted by it would dissolve into gibbering, weeping hysterics.
I’ve responded, and you haven’t responded to my responses. You suck at arguing and so resort to saying my argument is shitty.
If you aren’t going to make substantive posts and keep up your end of an argument, then at least try to be entertaining about it (like Luci–ie., he tries to be entertaining about it).