living with an ex

let me explain my current living situation:
a year ago, i moved into my first apartment with my girlfriend. things go well, we’re both excited about the novelty of living together, etc. until the inevitable happens, and we break up. and of course, we break up maybe a month after we’ve signed our new lease. so here we are, with a year-long lease, and a one-bedroom apartment that neither one of us is willing to move out of (it’s very close to campus, and neither of us can really afford an apartment of our own).
things have been civil so far, though a bit awkward, and most fights that could have been pretty heated have been averted (i’m much more interested in diplomacy than getting my way right now).

but here’s where it gets sticky. she “called” the bedroom, which means i’m stuck with the living room as my room. fine, fine, whatever. that leaves the kitchen as the only common area.

with me so far? good. here’s where i have problems… she doesn’t respect the fact that i give up all my privacy by living in the living room. she’ll wake up in the morning while i’m still asleep, turn on the kitchen light (which thus lights up the entire living room), and noisily make breakfast. all right, i don’t expect her to eat her cereal in the dark, but is it asking too much that she turn the light off when she leaves the room??? she does this every single morning, and every single morning i get woken up and ask her to turn off the light as she’s leaving. i really think this should have sunk in by now…

and another thing. she’s made a decree that i’m no longer allowed to use her cups. all well and good, but all the other dishes (plates, silverware, all our cups except the 3 that are hers) are mine!!! she doesn’t have a problem using my stuff, but god forbid i should pour myself a glass of milk in her precious texaco plastic cup.

i’ve tried to talk to her about what i’ve described above, but she always counters with, “you get the living room! that’s so much bigger than the bedroom (it’s not really much bigger), so don’t complain to me!”
i always respond the same way: you just say the word, and we can switch rooms. hell, i’d love to switch rooms!
at this point she usually goes off on a tangent and calls me an ass.

i don’t care that she uses my dishes. i don’t mind if she turns on the kitchen light in the morning while she’s in there. but i think she’s being a jerk about it, and short of moving out, i don’t see anything i can do about it.

i should probably mention that no, i did not break up with her. it was mutual (or at least as mutual as these things can be), so i can’t chalk that up as being the reason for her behavior.

maybe i should just be thankful that we’re on good enough terms that living together for the remainder of our lease is even an option. but still, this stuff is starting to piss me off, and being jarred awake by clattering dishes at 6:30 each morning does not set a very good start for the day.

Dude, your screwed.

Get out of their. It’s not going to get any better.

Is it likely that this is all part of her trying to get you to move out? Or, conversely, a dig at you because she wants to get back together?

As a suggestion (from someone who got themselves into the same situation) try changing your schedule. I started going to the gym first thing in the morning, so I’d be up before the ex girlfriend. She seemed to enjoy the game far less when she’d come through to find me halfway through my cereal.

You should also play her game exactly back at her. Do tell her she can’t use your plates. If she’s goint to impose arbitrary rules, tell her they apply both ways.

you’re right spooje, i don’t think it is going to get any better. but i think i’m going to have to go through it. moving out isn’t an option really. i can’t afford to get a place of my own, even if the apartment is way out from campus, much less within walking distance.

G. Kumquat: good suggestion about the schedule. i can’t change the times of my classes (well i can, but this late in the semester i’d be stuck with arrow fletching 101) but i could change the times i go out to study.

jep, you are screwed.

Like spooje said, things ain’t going to get any better.
You should really consider moving out pronto. Don’t play games or get into pissing matches. You might win, but you won’t feel happy living in that appartment.
I think the best you can do is move out and get somene else to take over the lease. Perhaps a friend of your ex? If the location is really that good, someone might go for it.

Also, talk to her. Sit her down, take your time, make certain she does the same. Explain that you’ve given up all your privacy, explain how you feel about it. Make sugestions to remedy the situation. Do it in a rational manner and don’t show any emotion. Be extremely polite and considerate about it. Alternatively, if you feel that talking to her about this will only result in more name calling, write her a letter. She can read it in her own time and you don’t have to worry about getting into an arguement.

Good luck, I feel for you. I hope everything works out OK.

You are being used. Go find a roomate with a two bedroom apartment.

Now young man (or girl, whatever)! Go!

BTW, why is this in the Pit?

yea, this probably doesn’t belong in the pit. i thought i’d be using harsher language in the OP. but i did call her a jerk! that counts as pit language, right??? :slight_smile:

thanks to all y’all for the advice. i wasn’t sure if i was overreacting or not, since all my beefs with her are little things (but those little things sure pile up fast).
funny how the little “quirks” you find so cute while you’re dating someone turn damn annoying once the relationship ends.

i guess to be fair, y’all are reading a one-sided account of the situation. but still, what fun is a break up if you can’t bitch about your ex? :smiley:

pah! when your ex becomes a member of this board, I’ll listen to that side of the story. Up to that time, I’m with you.

good to hear puk. my version would be the correct one anyway!

From a woman’s perspective, a letter lets her save face, if it dawns her what a jerk she’s been, when you diplomatically point out the unreasonableness of her rules regarding dishes and lights left on out of thoughtlessness (or spite).

I hope things get better for you.

Damn. She sounds like a bitch, here…but sometimes we get pretty weird when we break up. sigh /personal baggage

If she’s going to pull this shit for the next year, it might be best for you to confront her. Everyone seems to be right not that point. She seems to be acting really, really immature, and if you point it out to her, she might stop.

Good luck.

I lived with my ex for a year after we broke up.

It was horrible. I almost went crazy. Both of us were bound and determined to be mature enough to “make it work” and “stay friends” and that worked. I mean, to this day, we are friends. But the emotional cost to me, getting through that period of my life… God, it makes me want to vomit remembering.

There were a number of little courtesies we expected from each other, given our status as people who had formerly been intimate. The problem with living in the same house with the ex is that you’re there to see and experience every time that courtesy isn’t extended. Every time he didn’t fill me in on something big in his life; every time he brought a friend around and didn’t introduce us, I felt insulted and disrespected. That sort of thing, and it went both ways.

Then, bigger issues were even worse. Mutual or not, how do you think you’ll feel when one or both of you starts dating? And you’re taking phone messages from the new lover? What happens when you bring the other person home? Or they spend the night? Or you spend the night over at your gf’s house, and your ex-gf knows because you’re obviously not home all night? These were the things that made our carefully-brokered breakup go tits-up and send me (and him, too, eventually) into an emotional frenzy.

I say get out now. Do it politely and nicely, and you can maintain your friendship (after the hurt feelings subside). But do get out.

Oddly, I think the reason he and I are still such good friends are because we went through sheer hell together that year and stuck it out and refused to give up on it even when every witness to our situation was screaming for us to end it. I guess we the worst variety of masochists. But it’s not something we’d ever want to relive, and I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone else. Ever.

Since you say you can’t move out, find a way to make private space in the living room. Screen. Sheets. A wall of carboard boxes. Anything.
Divide the kitchen stuff into seperate cupboards.
You are now living with a stranger, make some rules just as you would with any stranger.

Just leave. Seriously, you probably don’t have too much stuff, if you can’t afford a place on your own, just put it into storage until you can get a place. Then find a roommate and get a new place. If that isn’t possible, couch surf for a little while until something is available.

From your post, she doesn’t seem to have any respect for you, and you don’t need to put up with that.

I’d go with the letter idea. Letters are a good way to accurately express your concerns to people without getting emotional. It also is a good stress reliever. You’ve put your concerns on paper and given it to her. It’s now up to her to respond. You don’t have to worry about it until she does.

I’d also add at the bottom of the letter that if she wants to discuss these issues in person with you that you’d be happy to do so with groundrules in place that would keep you two from getting into a screaming match.

Find the sleaziest girlfriend you can and start having the loudest (and most frequent) sex of your life in the living room. Afterwards, make sure to comment often about how much better your new girlfriend is than your old.

OK, maybe not the most productive suggestion.

Seriously, try to figure out a way to move out, even if it involves technically living there, but spending a lot of time over on a friend’s couch. Work your schedule to avoid her. Buy some glasses of your own. The privacy idea is good - maybe a dorm style loft for your bed with a curtain.

And breaking up isn’t inevitable - just probable. The committment of a year long lease should be as scary to a college age guy as an actual proposal of marriage.

You can also hope she gets a boyfriend. If she does - start spending a lot of time at your apartment - or you’ll risk three people in the apartment. The boyfriend won’t like his girlfriend living with her ex (hey, would you?) and they’ll start spending a lot of time someplace else.

right after our breakup, we decided that if living together was going to work, we needed a “no dating” rule. that doesn’t mean much to me, since i have absolutely no desire to start dating again anytime soon. as for her? well, i honestly don’t see her going the whole year without finding someone. hopefully, our no-dating rule will at least keep her from being obvious about it (loud sex in her room is one thing i aint going to deal with. i’d be outta here, even if it means couch surfing as Demise mentioned).

as for the letter… that’s a good idea. i really don’t want to confront her face-to-face (does that make me sound like a wuss? well you dont know this girl. she’ll start a fight immediately, no matter how diplomatic i am. and a fight for her, no matter how big or small, means yelling. a lot of yelling. and storming out. yes, this will be her reaction at me asking her to turn off the light in the morning. i’ve seen her go off on a lot less, believe me).

Dangerosa, you’re right that breaking up isn’t inevitable, but for us it was. there were a lot of signs i should have picked up on. over the last 2 years, this relationship really ran its course. we were both very sick of each other’s shit. yet i still signed the new lease thinking, “it’s rough now, but i’m sure things will get better.” :wally

I married my first husband with the same thought. Notice I said first husband.

With the second (current, and I hope 'til death do us part) one I got some sense.

two words: makeup sex

problem solved. :wink: