Lost 1.18 "Numbers"

Count me with those who loved this episode. For me, it comes in a narrow second to Locke’s “Walkabout.”

And regarding the hatch with the numbers on it: May I remind everyone of the lingering closeup we got, when Walt was reading his comic book, of the spacebound bubble city?

My current WAG: The numbers are a recruiting tool by alien experimenters. For various reasons, those who encounter the numbers are somehow drawn to the island. When X number of people are there, the island (which is not really an island, as indicated by the hatch, and as suggested by Sayid’s magnetic anomalies) will leave Earth and take its occupants… someplace. (Then a new island will be deposited as a fresh trap?)

I’m probably wrong, but who cares. :slight_smile:

“… and that plane crash. Who’d have guessed that a jetliner could come apart at altitude and cartwheel through a jungle, slide to a stop ten feet from the water, and 48 people walk away from it? Well, 47, considering one guy lost a leg; 46, actually, since that one lady had a heart attack and wasn’t doing much walking, but you get the idea… What are the odds?”

I think Hurley burned through the last of all the bad luck/good luck with the crash.

That is exactly what happens. It’s also possible to speed up playback a tiny bit without any change in what happens-- but it’s not like scenes are being cut or anything. CTV is just refusing to do the whole ‘shifted schedule’ thing because it really pisses off the audience.

Did anyone else think the cable Hurley found was very different from the cable Sayid found?

I think we’re all being set up for the mother of all cliffhangers. And after watching this episode, I really thing JJ Abrams has played way too many games of ‘six degrees of Kevin Bacon’. This show really does concentrate on people trying to find patterns and connections where they barely exist.

Maybe I missed this from an earlier thread - but the big wire or rope thing that lead Hurley to the French lady - any ideas what that thing is and why it ended by going into the earth? and could it be somehow related to the hatch which is also under the earth?

I forgot I actually wanted to add something.

First off I think the Pandora’s Box thing is particularly brilliant and I never thought of it before. You guys all rock. For the metaphor to hold, however, they will have to find a very good reason that the crew should not open the box (perhaps courtesy of CFL) before going ahead with it. And don’t forget that after all the things that Pandora unleashed upon the world, the last was Hope.

Second off this episode put me in mind of the concept of ka-tet which is from Stephen King’s Dark Tower series. It means a group of people brought together by fate and a common destiny. Precisely what we appear to have in the Lostiverse.

A Wrinkle in Time… hm… The book concerns the tesseract (a cubed cubed), which has some powers to influence space/time. Also the power of love to conquer dark forces. hmmmmm…

By the by, where the hell is Rose? We haven’t seen her in weeks and weeks.

And the guy whose leg Jack amputated. I’d love to get an update on how an amputee is coping with life on a primitive tropical island after a month…

Yeah but couple winning a big lottery with heart attack right there at the press conference, and that’s sure to make the ‘weird news of the week’ all over the world.

-rainy

I am making a prediction, on the last episode of this season, Locke and Boone will open the “hatch” and a bright white light will explode from the hatch and we’ll get the “To Be Continued…” text at the bottom of the screen.

MtM

I agree, except for the white light part. I think the last shot will be Boone and Locke climbing down into the hatch, and Locke taking a final look around the outside…his head disappears…“To Be Continued…” :smiley:

While back at the caves, Claire goes into labor, and further inland, Sayid, Hurley, and Charlie approach the Black Rock …

You’re both wrong.

Locke and Boone and Hurley open the hatch. They peer in, and Hurley says, “Whoa, dude. Didn’t expect that!”

:smiley:

Yep. We’re all on the same page here, it seems. :smiley:

Pretty decent. I enjoyed the Island segments very much. But I agree with MEBuckner that the flashbacks were a bit to slapstick. Almost cartoonish. I still can’t believe we have six weeks to go!

A few random thoughts:

  • Interesting that our backgammon playing buddies, black and white, offer a yin and yang on the whole LUCK spectrum.

  • I loved the end of Hurley’s patience. “I’m getting me some answers!”

  • At what point are these morons going to get organized? They are really thinking no one is coming. When is someone going to call for a central governing body?

  • PodKayne, NICE Tool Time Reference!

  • Did it look like the pod had been excavated considerably? Are Locke and Boone trying to find a different way in?

Now if there was a Pandora’s Box Co. in that list… :wink:

I see what you mean. But my question is: Why did the writers see fit to make Hurley’s flashback in this manner? Is it because that is what really happened, or is it because that is the way Hurley perceived the events around him? Remember, Hurley did time in the looney bin. His take on reality my differ from the average.

Theres a couple other connections in literature to these numbers.

Besides 42 being from Hitchhikers,

We got 8 which is the number of magic in the Discworld novels.

And 23 which is the number that binds the universe in Illuminatus!

The scary part, when I used to buy lottery tickets, I used these three numbers for this reason. I also used 17 which comes in order after 15 and 16.

The most I ever won was $150 though.

And no curse on my loved ones, only me.

Waitasec - I thought that was the whole point of the curse - that you the numbers user go around unscathed while bad luck befalls everyone else. Isn’t that what the French chick confirmed? I’m thinking that over time the only people left will be Hurley and the french chick.
*cursed :wink:

  • Are we sure that the thing with the numbers was the same pod that Locke and Boone were working on?

  • I think that the slapstick is representative of Hurley’s position in the cast. He is the comedy relief in the drama. Much of the comedy around his personality is going to come from irony and humility. The “dude” attitude reflects his common man perspective. The fact that he’s an uncommon man, ie extra large and very wealthy, is more irony from this common guy.

  • I bust out laughing when Hurley was ranting about the TCM being a deranged giraffe or something and that he played along even though he wondered why nobody was trying to figure out what it is.

  • Since, in the very first lost thread, I had stated that Charlie might be Gilligan I guess I should point out that Hurley is the new Mr. Howell.

Dude, Pandora (Dante Gabriel Rossetti, 1869) TOTALLY looks like Hurley holding a battery. Dude. Seroiusly. :smiley:

Well, that’s one of the weird things (hah). In a follow-up episode, Boone kinda blows up at Locke because all they’re doing all day long is sitting and staring at the hatch, and maybe trying to break it open with an axe. They’re not digging it out or anything, they’re just waiting for the island to cough up some answers.