LOST 1-21-09 "Because You Left"/"The Lie"

Well, they featured time travel way back in Season 3, and Season 4 was amazing, so I’m not worried.

No kidding. That stupid show where the whole premise revolved around time travel and some other stupid stuff that only lasted a couple of episodes was aweful. It was so bad I’m having a hard time remembering the name of it. Wasn’t it like “Dr. Time Travel” or “Time Travel Who” or some other stupid name like that. :p*

Seriously though has that statue with the four toes ever been explained?

*I kid. I kid. Please don’t hate me.

When they jump through time, what happens to the grass, dirt and air that was in the volume of space they have come to occupy post-jump?

This kind of thing always bothers me in these kinds of stories.

When I start to wonder about these and other science facts, I have to repeat to myself “It’s just a show, I should really just relax.”

-FrL-

Are some people jumping without the white sky flash? Or does it also accompany a time jump?

If there is always the white flash, perhaps “it” is moving the air and whatnot out of the way.

That was me, and I’m comfortable in my snark, as I feel that they have earned it. It’s like watching a sports team that used to be great but now is starting to drop off, and you aren’t ready to admit it to yourself yet, but you’re starting to bitch about the coaching decisions.

I, like you, am hopeful that they will entwine those stories back into the main plot; I’m just having trouble talking myself into it.

Presumably, it just gets pushed out of the way, same as if they’d walked into it. But, yeah, I doubt Lost is the place to go for really meticulously thought out science fiction. [Though I am pleased that they seem again to be committing to the one consistent timeline model of time travel]

How the hell do you people remember this stuff? I mean, how do the damn writers keep it all straight?!? And for that matter, planting a picture of some lady in the room of a monk from one frickin’ episode and having her reappear with Ben two seasons later. It’s a lever of detail that is just insane!
And I love it!

She also appeared at least one other time with a relatively important role. Desmond was coming unstuck in time and this Lady showed up at one point to explain (hint really) that he had a very important role to play. She displayed knowledge of the Island and seemed to know things would happen in advance of them happening, so it was quite creepy and memorable.

-FrL-

It’s the level of detail that makes us love the show (or at least one of the reasons). and that’s why we fans get angered if the writers seem to forget or leave us hanging about a details.

Okay, so why are the Losties unstuck in time, but the Others aren’t? Both the Losties and the Others were on the island when Ben turned the frozen donkey wheel. But we can see that Locke, who was with the Others, became unstuck but they did not. What is The Deal with the Others has always been the most confusing mystery to me.

Pyper - perhaps the others are not unstuck in time because they are native to the island (or spaceship or Atlantis, or whatever it is).

Desmond actually said to him: " Do I *know *you?!"
Fun show, and fun episodes, but I’m also fearing the major time-travel plot holes to come…

FYI, here is an article about the script coordinator for Lost.

HelloNinja:

My personal theory is that it’s Aaron and Ji-Yeon.

Yeah, but wasn’t it in Desmond’s personal future that he travelled back in time and met Daniel in Oxford?

-FrL-

No, it was the other way around. “The Constant” showed Desmond’s mind travelling forward to 2004 from the past. At the start of the episode, Desmond starts freaking out in the helicopter, because from his perspective he just arrived there from the past.

It hasn’t been made clear exactly how this works, as far as I know. Back in about 1996, Desmond’s mind comes forward to 2004, and Daniel tells him to go to Oxford. So Daniel and Desmond meet at Oxford back in 1996. You’d think that they would remember each other on the island.

It looks to me like they are setting up different time travel rules for Desmond and for everyone else. Daniel says that they can’t make changes in the past, but then he tries to do just that with Desmond. He also says something to the effect that Desmond is the only one who can help them.

He also seemed unsure about whether he’d be able to talk to Desmond until Des opened the door, which suggests he doesn’t fully understand how time works for Desmond.

You’re likely right. On the positive side, though, maybe one reason they’re skipping 3 years into the future is so that Walt will be appropriate-sized.

(but I doubt it)

-Joe

Not the show you were thinking of but, The Time Tunnel!

Ahhh, shit. I mainly meant that Galileo part as a joke (not that he invented it… just built it, cuz it looked centuries old). But, of course, you’re right… 'tis a Foucault Pendulum!