I could actually see this happening…
What I found interesting was that it looked like fingernail scratches, which Locke picked up on…
I missed this one - I’ll have to Review The Tape to catch this…
I felt like she wanted to say her goodbyes after being a total beeyatch last week.
Potential love interest, yes. Free to pursue Sawyer, no. Kate is clearly out for Number One. If Sawyer’s brains outweigh his testicles (a prohibitive favorite), he ain’t gonna fall for any more Kate bullshit.
This sub-thread opens up a whole new can of worms. Could it have been a note to his accountant to avoid certain investments? A note to his mom? Or, my personal choice, a note to the Crazy Guy that he was right that the numbers were cursed???
What did the other castaways put in their notes???
Could it be that…
the Island is magic?
Sooooooo…
chicks get off on a shaved chest? It ain’t actually natural…
Yeah, I’m waiting for a big gross-out scene real soon…
I will repeat an earlier request: that someone with a globe tape a string between Sydney and LA so we can figure out where they might be. My guess is that the Island sure as hell can’t be anything significant, size-wise.
Some of us would rather have a shirtless Sun, Kate and Shannon working on a lineless tan…
ivylass - I’m not really upset, it’s just one of my pet peeves. As for the Inga issue, that someone mentioned…
I’m just so very, very tired of “Hello, my name is Inga. I am from Sveden”, which seems to be a meme that’s particulary hard to irradicate. Next to the Dutch, I think Danes, Norwegians and Swedish are the best non native English speakers in the world. The ratio of light blond, blue eyed, big boobed, tall, sex kittens among the female population is also amazingly small. What few there are tend to be named Jessica, Angelica, Michelle, Veronica, Marielle. Inga is not an option.
I’ve always heard that one with Ilsa, not Inga. How common is Ilsa over there?
Well, that’s a bummer. Because any land populated with blond, blue-eyed, big-boobed sex kittens is one that I’d really like to visit. 
Okay, I really hope “The Others” are not big round chompy-mouths…
Yeah, what part of “magic island” don’t you understand?!?! 
This is the first episode of this show I’d ever seen. My parents have been hooked since the beginning, but I only now got around to watching it. I guess I’ve got the summer to catch up on it, with reruns and all. Anyways, after reading this thread… I gotta admit it’s got me really intrigued. From this episode alone I wasn’t entirely aware of all the mysteries and subtle little things that go on in this show, so I’ll definitely be watching more!
Does anybody know a place I can go to catch up on all this stuff? I don’t mind being spoiled for shows that’ve already gone by, and I want to know more about the mysterious stuff everyone has been mentioning.
How could you tell it was an L-1011? I’d have thought the producers would make the model of the plane carefully nonspecific or fictional, just as they did with “Oceanic Air.”
Televisionwithoutpity.com has nice long recaps that usually catch all the details.
Well, sure, it could be the only reason that ship’s there, but that would suck. Magic is one of the hardest themes to write about, IME, because you need to keep it internally consistent. So this island is magic–how does its magic work? Why? These are important questions. Otherwise, you have a story where things happen just because they can and quality storytelling is overtaken by the desire to simply show off some flashy effect or magic trick.
So, the island draws things and people it wants to it. meaning that the Others could have been there for centuries, descended from the crew of the Black Rock.
Why did it want the Nigerian drug smuggllers and a planeful of heroin in statues of Our Lady?
Regarding the “lost” scene of Rousseau talking to Claire while liberating a pair of hiking boots… I did notice that while they were walking to the Black Rock that she had on a new pair of Timberland-style boots, and I wondered where she got them. I just figuered she took them from someone’s luggage. It’s very obvious they’re new compared to her dirty clothes.
Maybe that scene was deleted?
I think the spin-off show should have Kate, Sun, Shannon and Claire finding a mud wallow and then getting into a wrestling match.
They wouldn’t really need bikinis. Once they ripped each other’s clothes off, the mud would cover them well enough.
Well enough for me anyway…
mmmmmmm…
Oh and both my wife and I agree it was “She took my baby” (my wife doesn’t watch the show. She just happened to be in the room whiel I was rewatching it and I asked her what she thought)
Oh, and she agrees with the general concensus of a shirtless Sawyer
So what’s with the black smoke?
Surely the Others aren’t so polite as to send up a friendly warning signal.
“OK, we’re coming to steal your babies now! Get ready!”
I think it’s the exhaust from the massive sea-faring ship that the island is secretly resting on.
Oooh! Two days late and I have something to add!!
Not that I’m necessarily on-board with the slaver idea (I know, bad pun), but I don’t think “wrong ocean” is a factor, given that there’s also a plane of Nigerian drug smugglers.
TCM is actually a steampunk device of some sort, and it has to build up steam before it can come chew on things.
Or The Others are a buncha antisocial malcontents who can’t even stand each others’ company, and they only band together to drive out castaways, and it’s kinda like their bat signal.
Or it took 40 days for the survivors of the crash of the tail section to … hey, wait a minute. In the pilot episode, didn’t they head off in search of the cockpit section because Kate said she saw smoke? This wouldn’t be the same direction, would it?
And they didn’t find any burned stuff (no engines, no fuel to burn) at the cockpit crash site…
Well, since the island is actually a large alien spacecraft, it would be a simply matter to sink it low enough in the water so that the entire island could then come up under the ship.