Lost 2.20: "Two for the Road"

Okay, finally got to watch it!

Just tried it, it works. I’m going to keep calling when I have more time to listen to every option.

Yup, that was Sawyer. You got a good look at his face when he yelled in the window.

I did notice that one!

That takes you right to one of the letters I posted back in this post.

I still don’t know what to think, maybe if I give it a couple more hours.

Jack had the body with him on the plane, or thought he did (did we ever see it?), but he found only an empty coffin on the island.

Pick one:

a) Jack’s dad never was dead to start with, and he’s pulling the strings.
b) Jack’s dad was dead, and the island made him a whole lot better.

Guns generally don’t rattle - they might click subtley here and there depending on the design. This isn’t necesarily evidence, though - TV sound men are horrible with guns. Every time anyone points a gun, you hear it clicking or cocking.

What was the whole deal with AnaL and Jack’s dad’s relationship? He didn’t need “security”, obviously - what was she guarding him from? I guess he just wanted companionship, but it seems odd that he’d pick someone from LA to try to get to come with him rather than trying to find someone there. It seems like the writing staff making pointless pre-flight connections between characters.

Cite? I suspect this may be true, but if they actually said as much…

Are these only available for one week? Or is there a link to archives?

If you’ve got a cite, then they are ALSO on record (disc 7 of the Season 1 DVDs) saying that one of the first times one of the producers and Damon Linderhof (sp?) sat down and discussed the arc of the show, they came up with about 5 seasons worth of plot (so that’s about 5 months Island Time?) for the show.

Of course, that initital story has likely changed a lot, but I certainly did not get the impression they were making it up as they went along, or that they thought there would only be one season.

I’ve seen the entirety of season one at least 4 or 5 times, so can say with authority that Jack (and we, the viewers) definitely saw Christian in the Sydney morgue when Jack identified the body. So unless they routinely put bodies in the freezer before checking a pulse, Jack’s dad was in fact dead. At least for a little while.

This is accurate.

Oh, but we never did see the coffin actually going on the plane, if that’s what you mean. Jack argued with the counter-lady about it, but presuming she gave in, we don’t know if Jack ever got visual confirmation thereof.

There was, of course, and empty coffin in the wreckage. Whether it was empty or not when it went on the plane is unknown.

I wonder if Hurley will have another breakdown.

He landed in the mental hospital because he was punishing himself with food after a balcony (?) collapse killed two people. He told Libby he’s obsessed with food. Now, because he was concentrating on food for the picnic and had to send his girlfriend back for blankets and drinks, which led to her death, I wonder if he will see himself as reponsible for her death.

Not that he was, of course, but considering his issues with food…

My daughter watched it last night on the ABC site and thought it was great, but after when we were discussing it I asked her what she thought about the look between Fenry and Michael. She said “What look?”
Apparently for her it cut out right after Michael shot Libby. She went back again to see the end and it cut out there again. Did anyone else have that problem? She didn’t even know Michael shot himself.

Watching it again.

I don’t think the blonde Australian woman that Christian accosts is old enough to be Clare’s Mom. Aunt maybe…

Ok, so I was watching the ABC.com flash site and it played the whole thing for me, no cutting off at the end. It doesn’t include the “next week” stuff though.

I also couldn’t resume playing after pausing. It would just stay paused. I had to to eyeball the progress, re-launch the player, find where I’d eyeballed again, watch an ad, and then it continued. Interestingly, when I did this, the resulting ad seemed to replace the ad that I was supposed to have encountered if I’d watched it all the way through the first time. Like there is a static number of ads, and if you get them all out of the way early, you can enjoy the rest commercial free.

With my noise-cancelling iPod headphones on, there is audible rattling pretty much the entire time Michael has the gun in his hand, not just when he’s in the cell with NotHenry. It sounds to me like actual rattling of the prop gun. There was also nothing spoken by either Michael or Henry, contrary to an early post that one of them said something like “I’m ready.”

Did the ABC site show the special “commercial” with the phone number? She said she never saw that either.

With dial-up I can’t even get it to play so I have no way of confirming…don’t know what’s going on with her not being able to see the ending. Is there a commercial between the shots and Michael opening the cell door? Maybe it’s just freezing up on her.

She looked old enough to be a relatively young mom. she had older eyes.

She looks like she could be in her late 30’s.

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I saw an episode list for the rest of the season that listed Watros in all of the remaining episodes. Of course, any or all of those could be in flashbacks, and I can’t seem to find the page I was looking at so it may not be right anyway.

If they didn’t know before they they found out when Jack told them. Zeke had enough time to get micheal to agree to a plan before he came stumbling out of the jungle. Remember Jack started a fire and was waiting around after he annouced to the others that he had Henry.

I think you are a little confused. Jack was trying to trade Henry for Walt. He never tried to trade for Michael. As far a Jack knew Michael was still walking thru the jungle. Zeke told Jack that Michael would never never find them. It was a surprise when Michael came out of the jungle. Micheal would have already known the trade didn’t work.

I agree with those in the not brainwashed camp. He made a deal to get back Walt and doesn’t care who he kills to get him. Remember the look in his eyes when he locked up Jack and John in the vault? He wasn’t brainwashed then, just desperate.

Do we have any reason to assume they heard Jack when he was shouting into the darkness? If they did, why wouldn’t they just have accepted Jack’s offer to trade Henry for Walt, instead of sending Michael in to carry out a risky plan? Better yet, if they really were there, why not just surround Jack and Kate, take them hostage, then trade them for Henry (which is what I thought was going to happen as soon as Jack announced his plan)?

Walt is clearly very important, they went out of their way to get him.

I too don’t want to be lame and sit here asking for a cite, but this is shocking. this is the first time i’ve heard that the producers did not have a long-term plan. Hurry up and expand on this Ethilrist :smiley:

The few articles I’ve read said that the producers had a multi-year plan mapped.

I’m hot to find out the real plans… everything i thought i knew was a lie?

Those two scenerios do not have to be mutually exclusive. They could have had a multi-year plan and still thought it wouldn’t last past the first year. No different than Star Wars, Lucas at least had a bare outline the entire story but didn’t know if he would ever get a chance to tell it.